Fish 30-65 lb braid. You don't have to use a leader that way. I use a number 8 and number 6 treble hooks. Use the 8 as the main and then the 6 as a stinger a couple inches down. I buy shiners and cut them in half and throw them without weight and under a small float. You can fish a whole shiner if you know you have larger fish in the area, you won't catch as many fish but they will be larger. When the fish takes the bait let him run with it for as long as it takes for the float to come back to the surface, at that point the fish is working the bait to the back of his mouth. When the float goes back under and starts moving, lay the hammer down. You can also throw a rope lure and catch them that way. I am going to get out some this year when the weather gets hotter, anyone is welcome to join me.