04-24-2013, 11:49 AM
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New guides on rod
Need someone to wrap new guides on a older rod.
Any one know who does this.
Located in the Murfreesboro area.
Thanks
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04-24-2013, 12:22 PM
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Contact Leo DeMumbreum down at Cumberland Transit (Nashville) in the fly shop. Not sure which day he works anymore but Ronnie (the other fly shop guy) could get you in touch. Leo builds custom bamboo fly rods, brings old rods back to life and does great work.
Here's some of his work: https://plus.google.com/photos/11297...137?banner=pwa
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04-24-2013, 03:33 PM
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nashvillefishingguides.co
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Just expect to pay about$25.00 per guide. This is what he was going to charge me to remove the old guide and replace it with the new guide I had purchased.
Six guides or more? You can buy a custom built rod from Kissell Krafts in Georgia for that price.
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04-24-2013, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by agelesssone
Just expect to pay about$25.00 per guide. This is what he was going to charge me to remove the old guide and replace it with the new guide I had purchased.
Six guides or more? You can buy a custom built rod from Kissell Krafts in Georgia for that price.
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I'm glad you chimed in here. A re-wrap cost as much if not more than a new rod. I have an older crappie rod that I really liked and wanted to get it re-wrapped until I found out the cost. Best to get a new rod.
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04-24-2013, 05:58 PM
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In defense of custom builders it doesn't matter so much how many guides you're doing. The process is tedious and time consuming. You have to prep the blank, removing old guide and whatever was used to seal it. You have to get your wrapping equipment set up and wrap the new guide (that's the easy part). Then you have to get your turning equipment setup. Mix up the flexcoat which is costly and not easy to mix enough for just one guide so there will be waste. Use a fine bristle brush to apply the flexcoat that usually gets tossed after one use and aint cheap. Apply the flexcoat and start the turning process (takes about 8 hours to cure). Remove the rod from the turner clean up the mess and put the equipment back up. I've built many rods over the years and I wouldn't get my equipment out for $25 (not meant to be a slam, just the truth).
One thing you'll learn fast about custom building is that you aren't going to save money doing it. You'll eventually build a much, much, better product than you can buy commercially, but save money you won't... There are people out there who are making a living turning rods so they have a system that helps keep the prices down. When you find one that sells a high end blanks built right for a price you can afford you better hang on to his info!!
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04-24-2013, 06:28 PM
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Thanks to all you guys. It was one of the first custom built rods I bought years ago. Kind of like a old pair of shoes,it just fit me good.
RDS
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04-24-2013, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Anderson
In defense of custom builders it doesn't matter so much how many guides you're doing. The process is tedious and time consuming. You have to prep the blank, removing old guide and whatever was used to seal it. You have to get your wrapping equipment set up and wrap the new guide (that's the easy part). Then you have to get your turning equipment setup. Mix up the flexcoat which is costly and not easy to mix enough for just one guide so there will be waste. Use a fine bristle brush to apply the flexcoat that usually gets tossed after one use and aint cheap. Apply the flexcoat and start the turning process (takes about 8 hours to cure). Remove the rod from the turner clean up the mess and put the equipment back up. I've built many rods over the years and I wouldn't get my equipment out for $25 (not meant to be a slam, just the truth).
One thing you'll learn fast about custom building is that you aren't going to save money doing it. You'll eventually build a much, much, better product than you can buy commercially, but save money you won't... There are people out there who are making a living turning rods so they have a system that helps keep the prices down. When you find one that sells a high end blanks built right for a price you can afford you better hang on to his info!!
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You are right Mike. The time in doing rods is the cost. I have never built one and don't think I would want to but a man has to get paid for his time. In the next week I will be trying out a Gill rod made for me on a 2wt fly rod blank. I fully expect that to be a blast.
Regards
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04-24-2013, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by smith1
Thanks to all you guys. It was one of the first custom built rods I bought years ago. Kind of like a old pair of shoes,it just fit me good.
RDS
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That is the way I felt about the crappie rod. I still have it in the corner. But I had one custom made and they listened when I told them what I wanted and all the crappie I have caught this year have been on the new rod. I love the new crappie rod but still think about having the older rod re-wrapped.
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04-24-2013, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphahawk
You are right Mike. The time in doing rods is the cost. I have never built one and don't think I would want to but a man has to get paid for his time. In the next week I will be trying out a Gill rod made for me on a 2wt fly rod blank. I fully expect that to be a blast.
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How long is it? I've got a 1wt that I love to take on trips where stocker trout are plentiful and large holdover trout are rare (Elk). It is a blast to fish but a little wind completely shuts it down.
Building a rod is surprisingly easier then you think. It's the cost of getting set up that deters most I think. You can set up on the cheap and do just fine though. The little things like the common sense system, forhan locking wraps on spinning guides, high quality guides, seats, threads, finishing, etc, make it worth it IMO. The rods you build will last a lifetime if taken care of.
Then there is that sense of pride that comes from catching a trophy on a rod you built. Sometimes on a fly you tied too!
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04-24-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Anderson
How long is it? I've got a 1wt that I love to take on trips where stocker trout are plentiful and large holdover trout are rare (Elk). It is a blast to fish but a little wind completely shuts it down.
Building a rod is surprisingly easier then you think. It's the cost of getting set up that deters most I think. You can set up on the cheap and do just fine though. The little things like the common sense system, forhan locking wraps on spinning guides, high quality guides, seats, threads, finishing, etc, make it worth it IMO. The rods you build will last a lifetime if taken care of.
Then there is that sense of pride that comes from catching a trophy on a rod you built. Sometimes on a fly you tied too!
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It is 6' 6". I have not had it out yet as I don't want to lay it in the rocks. Have been waiting for the Gills to come out in force and use it in my kayak.
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04-24-2013, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smith1
Thanks to all you guys. It was one of the first custom built rods I bought years ago. Kind of like a old pair of shoes,it just fit me good.
RDS
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If it's sentimental then the cost would be worth it to have the rod done right. I have an old wright mcgill glass fly rod that could be bought at a third of what it cost to bring back to life. But it would not be right to fish with another...that one has value beyond the savings in $$$...
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