Caney Fork

[Fish Whisperer]

I'm gonna buy a trout stamp so I can fish the Caney Fork again just to piss off the self righteous fly fisherman that think that river belongs to them... The whole slot limit they lobbied for is complete BS, they're just jealous that a guy with a can of corn can out fish 'em 9 outta ten times...

[txnative]

Umm....

[jad2t]

Fishing with corn isn't fishing. Fishing is a sport that takes practice and talent to convince fish species to eat a hard or soft piece of plastic with hooks in it because they think it's real. How difficult is it to make a trout eat a piece of corn, a worm, or a cricket? Not difficult at all. As far as you fishing with corn and outfishing flyfisherman 9 out of 10 times... did you know that 78% of statistics are made up on the spot with no logical base whatsoever? Look it up.

As far as lobbying for the regulations, I am in full support. Sure, I liked it several years ago when you went to the Caney and kept the first 7 trout you caught regardless of what size or species they were but that severely depleted the trout population and so strict regulations had to be put in place to help bring back the trout in that river.

Instead of being jealous of the talent us flyfishermen have acquired through years of practice, why not just ask one of us for pointers? It's much more fun than sitting there with a bobber and corn knowing you're accomplishing nothing by making a trout eat a real piece of food.

[Travis C.]

Originally Posted by Fish Whisperer

I'm gonna buy a trout stamp so I can fish the Caney Fork again just to piss off the self righteous fly fisherman that think that river belongs to them... The whole slot limit they lobbied for is complete BS, they're just jealous that a guy with a can of corn can out fish 'em 9 outta ten times...

I can't say I completely disagree with you on the first part. Unfortunately there are those guys out there but that same "self righteous fisherman" doesn't just limit himself to the Caney with a fly rod.

The regulations are different but so was the initial brown trout reg when it was established. Look at the results of it now and in 5 years if not sooner you'll see the results of these new ones. With protecting that size class, your overall average size fish will go up year after year. Instead of hoping for a slot sized fish and catching stockers you'll catch slot sized fish and be hoping that next bite is the trophy your looking for.

Go ahead get the stamp and enjoy some fishing to help fund the management of that great fishery.

[Mike Anderson]

If you ever want to learn the sport of fly angling give me a shout. It really isn't the elitist club you might think it is. I've made some of the best friends in my life on my journey to become a fly angler and helping others learn the sport. As cliche as it may sound fly fishing is a way of life as much as it is a sport. I've fished every way you can think of and nothing compares.

Many have fished with corn for trout. It's how most people started. Taking it to the next level is up to each angler.

Protecting a resource as amazing as the Caney Fork is never a bad thing.

I'm a fly angler and I promise you I'm not self righteous and I don't think the river belongs to me. Don't let the few bad seeds shade your judgement.

Mike Anderson

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by Mike Anderson

If you ever want to learn the sport of fly angling give me a shout. It really isn't the elitist club you might think it is. I've made some of the best friends in my life on my journey to become a fly angler and helping others learn the sport. As cliche as it may sound fly fishing is a way of life as much as it is a sport. I've fished every way you can think of and nothing compares.

Many have fished with corn for trout. It's how most people started. Taking it to the next level is up to each angler.

Protecting a resource as amazing as the Caney Fork is never a bad thing.

I'm a fly angler and I promise you I'm not self righteous and I don't think the river belongs to me. Don't let the few bad seeds shade your judgement.

Mike Anderson

Mike, Well stated !!.. <'TK><

Would trout be in the caney in 10yrs without the stocking?Do they thrive and naturally spawn enough to sustain the population?I have heard people that work for the twra call it put and take fishing.I dont even fish for trout and havent since I was a kid with corn.

[Fish Whisperer]

I've fished the Caney for years and the only people that act like arrogant aholes are the fly fishermen(and women) that think they own the river because they spent a thousand dollars at LL Bean.. I'm not anti fly fishing, I'm just anti we own the river fishermen... I buy the same license everyone else buys so I'm not sure where this superiority deal comes from..

Its just people in general.I see the samething deer hunting.Someone spends alot on high dollar gun and gear.Now they know what there doing and own half the mtn.and Ive let deer walk that they shoot in a second.I've killed more deer with my old 1980 savage .270 than most people have in a life time.People are getting rude.I havent deer hunted in 2 yrs because of idoits.Turkey season is getting bad now and I love to hunt big birds.I see people below woods dam on a military base keeping hybrids as big as my hand by the bucket full.Things are just gonna get worse.Do what I do and elbow my way to the bank and hurt there feelings!

[Mike Anderson]

Originally Posted by Fish Whisperer

I've fished the Caney for years and the only people that act like arrogant aholes are the fly fishermen(and women) that think they own the river because they spent a thousand dollars at LL Bean.. I'm not anti fly fishing, I'm just anti we own the river fishermen...I buy the same license everyone else buys so I'm not sure where this superiority deal come s from..

Yea, me either....

[jad2t]

Originally Posted by Fish Whisperer

I've fished the Caney for years and the only people that act like arrogant aholes are the fly fishermen(and women) that think they own the river because they spent a thousand dollars at LL Bean.. I'm not anti fly fishing, I'm just anti we own the river fishermen... I buy the same license everyone else buys so I'm not sure where this superiority deal comes from..

Do you care to elaborate on what in particular you are referring to? Was there a certain incident that made you feel this way toward certain flyfishermen?

[Travis C.]

That stinks about your encounters with fly fishermen. Like clean air said those people are out there in everything from work to outdoors. It just goes to show how a few bad eggs can ruin a dozen. I fly fish as well as gear fish. I guarantee there are a lot more non-knuckle heads out there than the ones you've come by.


bd though, he put one of those high podiums on the back of his boat so he don't have to fish down on our level.

[txnative]

First off, i am a fly fisherman. I have no aversion to conventional gear, but flyfishing is my true love. I am not snobby, i will and have shared flies, lures, techniques, bait, etc with others. I even let others fight fish i have hooked into, especially novice or young anglers. Giving is part of the joy in the fishing brother (and sister) hood. While i feel this way, i would be foolish to ignore the bad apples. I have dealt with conventional and fly fishermen that have an arrogant, me-first attitude. Fly fishermen getting stigmatized the most due to the price and difficulty of flyfishing making it appear to be an elite club. Same with golfers vs football, or people who own showdogs vs a person that takes in a stray.

All fishing styles have their share of a-holes. Bass fishermen are the bane of kayak fishermen, fly fishermen cuss bait chunkers, sportfishermen despise meat hunters, carp anglers hate bowfishers, etc. It doesn't matter which group you are part of, a stereotype exists that labels you as "wrong." By continuing this trend, Fish Whisperer, you are part of the problem. I believe you had a bad experience with a fly fisherman, but don't judge me by the same standard just because i choose to catch fish with different gear than you.

As for the caney's trout regs, why would any ethical angler be against a regulation intended to improve/protect a fishery ? If your sole interest in trout is how many you can get in the freezer, then maybe you aren't qualified to judge others due to your inability to respect others' rights to the same resources as you. I love the fact that twra is doing something to sustain a fantastic fishery and would be fine with stricter regs, even a catch-and-release only designation. My daughter will appreciate the fact the place daddy fishes will be there for her when she gets older. The future of our sport is in our hands, and furthering a prejudice is both irresponsible and idiotic. Talk to the person(s) who upset you, don't paint everyone with the same stroke, and be courteous to all.


Chris

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by txnative

First off, i am a fly fisherman. I have no aversion to conventional gear, but flyfishing is my true love. I am not snobby, i will and have shared flies, lures, techniques, bait, etc with others. I even let others fight fish i have hooked into, especially novice or young anglers. Giving is part of the joy in the fishing brother (and sister) hood. While i feel this way, i would be foolish to ignore the bad apples. I have dealt with conventional and fly fishermen that have an arrogant, me-first attitude. Fly fishermen getting stigmatized the most due to the price and difficulty of flyfishing making it appear to be an elite club. Same with golfers vs football, or people who own showdogs vs a person that takes in a stray.

All fishing styles have their share of a-holes. Bass fishermen are the bane of kayak fishermen, fly fishermen cuss bait chunkers, sportfishermen despise meat hunters, carp anglers hate bowfishers, etc. It doesn't matter which group you are part of, a stereotype exists that labels you as "wrong." By continuing this trend, Fish Whisperer, you are part of the problem. I believe you had a bad experience with a fly fisherman, but don't judge me by the same standard just because i choose to catch fish with different gear than you.

As for the caney's trout regs, why would any ethical angler be against a regulation intended to improve/protect a fishery ? If your sole interest in trout is how many you can get in the freezer, then maybe you aren't qualified to judge others due to your inability to respect others' rights to the same resources as you. I love the fact that twra is doing something to sustain a fantastic fishery and would be fine with stricter regs, even a catch-and-release only designation. My daughter will appreciate the fact the place daddy fishes will be there for her when she gets older. The future of our sport is in our hands, and furthering a prejudice is both irresponsible and idiotic. Talk to the person(s) who upset you, don't paint everyone with the same stroke, and be courteous to all.


Chris

Chris, well said !! Thanks ... <'TK><

Originally Posted by Fish Whisperer

I'm gonna buy a trout stamp so I can fish the Caney Fork again just to piss off the self righteous fly fisherman that think that river belongs to them... The whole slot limit they lobbied for is complete BS, they're just jealous that a guy with a can of corn can out fish 'em 9 outta ten times...