05-03-2016, 08:27 AM
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The best striped fish fisherman I know took one look at it and said not a pure hybrid. Maybe an F-X Hybrid (striper mother x hybrid father). A true Hybrid is a F-1 Hybrid (striper mother x white bass father).
He said the head size in relation to body gives it away and would not be recognized by IFGA nor should it by TWRA if DNA tested.
I trust his judgement on this over TWRA.
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05-03-2016, 08:31 AM
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That guy in that Red Toyota has been fishing there for a lot of years. Is he the one that caught it?
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05-03-2016, 08:34 AM
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Gaspergou, Can you ID this fish from the photo? You would be the most certified on the board.
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05-03-2016, 11:16 AM
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That guy in that Red Toyota has been fishing there for a lot of years. Is he the one that caught it?
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Yeah I've talked with him many times. I can't tell if it's him who caught it. Wasn't his name Paul? Or was it Dave...
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05-03-2016, 12:00 PM
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Yep, <'TK><
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Originally Posted by Travis C.
The best striped fish fisherman I know took one look at it and said not a pure hybrid. Maybe an F-X Hybrid (striper mother x hybrid father). A true Hybrid is a F-1 Hybrid (striper mother x white bass father).
He said the head size in relation to body gives it away and would not be recognized by IFGA nor should it by TWRA if DNA tested.
I trust his judgement on this over TWRA.
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That was the first indication ... The head size and gill plate .. Like I stated before it is not uncommon to catch Rocks with broken lines.. <'TK>< This is a Rock Fish !!
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05-03-2016, 09:35 PM
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His name is Dave. I know him well, darned good fishermen in some respects, we had a falling out, so we do not speak, I do know he looked at a pic of a fish I caught several years ago (that was a giant if it was a hybrid) and he told me it was a hybrid but to me it was a striper.
That fish is also a striper and I disagree with the TWRA for sure on that one, at least without a true test and especially if what I understand is true that it was verified through pictures.
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05-04-2016, 01:20 AM
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Contacted TWRA .. <'TK><
I have contacted an old friend . Doug Markham, TWRA spokesman to see if he could investigate and check with his people on the validity of this fish ... We will wait for a reply ... <'TK>< Note: Newspaper article stated that the Corps of Eng. was contacted http://www.tennessean.com/story/spor...lake/83548368/ Uuummm?? So TWRA was not ever involved ... ?? My personal opinion ... The Corp doesn't have a clue !!
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05-04-2016, 06:39 AM
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I have contacted an old friend . Doug Markham, TWRA spokesman to see if he could investigate and check with his people on the validity of this fish ... We will wait for a reply ... <'TK>< Note: Newspaper article stated that the Corps of Eng. was contacted http://www.tennessean.com/story/spor...lake/83548368/ Uuummm?? So TWRA was not ever involved ... ?? My personal opinion ... The Corp doesn't have a clue !!
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I agree TK.
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05-04-2016, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tkwalker
I have contacted an old friend . Doug Markham, TWRA spokesman to see if he could investigate and check with his people on the validity of this fish ... We will wait for a reply ... <'TK>< Note: Newspaper article stated that the Corps of Eng. was contacted http://www.tennessean.com/story/spor...lake/83548368/ Uuummm?? So TWRA was not ever involved ... ?? My personal opinion ... The Corp doesn't have a clue !!
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Someone on here said TWRA verified it so I just assumed they know best and the pic was misleading but if they never got involved then I stand with my opinion that fish is 100% Striped Bass.
Still, it's a great size fish for JPP, it's not often you find one that size in there. But it's not a new lake record Hybrid. This needs to be fixed!
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05-04-2016, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tkwalker
I have contacted an old friend . Doug Markham, TWRA spokesman to see if he could investigate and check with his people on the validity of this fish ... We will wait for a reply ... <'TK>< Note: Newspaper article stated that the Corps of Eng. was contacted http://www.tennessean.com/story/spor...lake/83548368/ Uuummm?? So TWRA was not ever involved ... ?? My personal opinion ... The Corp doesn't have a clue !!
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If the Corps ID the fish then it could have been a "broken lines must be a hybrid". That we know is not an accurate way to go about it.
In all fairness, when staring at what you think is a record fish of any kind I imagine the WOW factor could impair sound judgement in the dotting of I's or crossing T's.
Also, the newspaper article was poorly prepared with him catching the fish on a "quarter house" jig.
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05-04-2016, 10:59 AM
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Update ... <'TK><
I heard from Doug this morning and He said that they (TWRA) was aware of this fish pic and read FishingTN's thread and had discussed this since last week. To Their knowledge no one from TWRA verified or assessed the fish. Doug also reminded me that TWRA only verifies State Records.
So to me this is all on the Corps and I don't know if they have a biology Dept. or a fishery Division in the state?
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05-04-2016, 03:38 PM
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I agree that the fish is not a hybrid, but unless someone saved a tissue sample, there's probably not much to do about it...
and over a lake record?! Man, that's just a bit of flatulence in the wind.
It'll pass.
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