I Hate A Thief

[TNBronzeback]

Originally Posted by ttitan27

A poor choice for a supposedly grown mature man to react to a stolen fishing rod.

Also, thumpings don't always go as planned. You may find yourself the thumpee.

Its always easy to downgrade somebody elses issues when your not effected by it.
To you, its just a simple stolen fishing pole....just money....no biggie.
To him it may have sentimental value, birthday gift from kids, deceased fathers favorite rod....ect. I dont know if thats the case or not, but it shouldnt matter either way
What was stolen is irrelivent. The point i was making is as a society with 18 year old "kids" there is zero accountability anymore. When i was growing up....a true kid 7-8 years old, if i took something without asking, i got the belt and sore a$$.....and the lesson to never steal.
Today we have timeouts and turned backs.
How do i know? Burglurized 2 times successfully and a 3rd time failed. Items never recovered, but as a thanks my insurance premiums almost doubled where as the "kids" ranging from 8-19 years old (there were 5 of them total in my house) got a few months probation, slaps on the wrist.
So yeah, im a little jaded on the "not a big deal, just X that got stolen but ya got it back"

[ttitan27]

Originally Posted by TNBronzeback

Its always easy to downgrade somebody elses issues when your not effected by it.
To you, its just a simple stolen fishing pole....just money....no biggie.
To him it may have sentimental value, birthday gift from kids, deceased fathers favorite rod....ect. I dont know if thats the case or not, but it shouldnt matter either way
What was stolen is irrelivent. The point i was making is as a society with 18 year old "kids" there is zero accountability anymore. When i was growing up....a true kid 7-8 years old, if i took something without asking, i got the belt and sore a$$.....and the lesson to never steal.
Today we have timeouts and turned backs.
How do i know? Burglurized 2 times successfully and a 3rd time failed. Items never recovered, but as a thanks my insurance premiums almost doubled where as the "kids" ranging from 8-19 years old (there were 5 of them total in my house) got a few months probation, slaps on the wrist.
So yeah, im a little jaded on the "not a big deal, just X that got stolen but ya got it back"

I never said it wasn't a big deal and the perpetrator shouldn't be punished. It is just that your way is wrong and illegal.

Yes I have had trail cameras, deer stands, and a host of other things taken from me over the years. The knee jerk reaction is to kick ass but that is not the solution.

If that is what you want to do then by all means, punch someone in the face over great grand dads reel and see how fast you find yourself in handcuffs and in jail.

[TNBronzeback]

Originally Posted by ttitan27

I never said it wasn't a big deal and the perpetrator shouldn't be punished. It is just that your way is wrong and illegal.

Yes I have had trail cameras, deer stands, and a host of other things taken from me over the years. The knee jerk reaction is to kick ass but that is not the solution.

If that is what you want to do then by all means, punch someone in the face over great grand dads reel and see how fast you find yourself in handcuffs and in jail.

Im full agreement with you and anybody else that says a form a street justice is the wrong way to go.....i couldnt agree more, but more cases than not, a pop to nose will leave a longer lasting impression and a second thought if they decide to break the law again more so than most litigation will provide. And like ya said that would more than likely get ya some legal problems of your own.
Sad the way that works.
I didnt want that to cause problems with anybody on here or anything just to be clear.
Im not looking to attack anybody verbally with my rants, it just hits home ya know. The victims, in 1 way or another get the shaft more often then not it seems.

[lupanfreitag]

Once a millenium ago in Illinois, I had all my rods in my parents garage which was never closed, doors never locked. Someone came by in the dark and grabbed most of my rods. Luckily, unfortunately, most were two pcs and separated. The robber grabbed blindly. ...
Therefore the next day I found half my rods, mostly the tops.
Never caught the culprit but still pissed to this day. I can forgive much but not theft..... of my fishing stuff.

[ditz1]

This young man is NOT a kid. At 19 I was starting a family and working 60 to 70 hours a week. Will he up his game next time? It is too bad that street justice is against the law. Will the next person that he steals from or hurts also think he is just a kid and walk away? When he is 40 will he still be stealing from his friends and relatives? I hand it to him for joining the Marines. I question whether he will even make it thru boot camp. If he doesn't make it thru boot camp will he break into you house two months from now knowing that you will be OK with it?

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by ditz1

I question whether he will even make it thru boot camp.

Me too.

I am in full agreement with you about his age vs. adulthood. They are rioting in the streets of Ferguson Mo. regarding about the same thing.

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by ditz1

This young man is NOT a kid. At 19 I was starting a family and working 60 to 70 hours a week. Will he up his game next time? It is too bad that street justice is against the law. Will the next person that he steals from or hurts also think he is just a kid and walk away? When he is 40 will he still be stealing from his friends and relatives? I hand it to him for joining the Marines. I question whether he will even make it thru boot camp. If he doesn't make it thru boot camp will he break into you house two months from now knowing that you will be OK with it?

50 years ago I married my now bride at the age of 19 ... Yes from 16 years old until I graduated at 18 I went to school and worked at a Chevron Full service gas station .... 40 hours a week until I graduated then it was 6 days at 12 hours a day for $70 a week ..off on Wednesdays I was the assistant manager . And I thought I was a real success ...But I was still a Kid...

rditze ... I see you are 2 years younger than I. (I don't know if you are veteran , If so thank you for your service) ... ... So we almost came up under the same culture ... ... Here is the difference at 19 I was still a kid !! Until I went into the military at the age of 20 ... The military will make you a man or degrade you 6 feet lower than Whale SXXX ...

When I said the Military will make a man of you ... Prime example ... Basic Training ... 1966 ... We had a thief in the barracks who got caught ... He was from Chicago, a Hard core punk !! ... After we caught him peer justice set in ... The TI never questioned the next day about the black eyes, fat lip, or bruises ... It doesn't have to be the legal system who corrects the problems in the military ...

So this is why I think the military will correct the problem ... Now lets regress ... I hate a thief ... But this kid wanted to fish ... He did not sell the gear for drugs etc. ... Everything recovered ... Still not an excuse for stealing ... But most people in this time frame of their lives have done dishonest or unethical things .. even maybe stealing someone else's girl friends Heart !! ... <'TK><

[ditz1]

You TK are correct. We don't always make good decisions @ 19. Then again we don't always make good decisions at 60 either. The is a point in life when each individual must take responsibility for his actions. In my opinion that time is several years before we reach 19.

One of my daughters was seen eating at a Burger King when she and her girl friend were supposed to be in school. She was 16 at the time. The girl friends dad saw them. He called me and asked if I cared it he called the school and turned them in for skipping. I said they need to be turned in. It cost me several hours and $$ driving to the school after hours to pick her up while she was on detention but she needed to understand her responsibility. My wife's baby sister never learned that cause daddy always bailed her out. Daddy died a couple years ago so now one of the brothers is bailing her out and he is getting sick of it. Her sister is now 50 and still floating bad checks and other stupid stuff "because she can get away with it".....

[XxthejuicexX]

You know right and wrong way before 19. If the kids wanted to fish that bad and needed gear, ask. I know I have extra rods and reels laying around I never use. I gave a set to a co worker last year that wanted to get into fishing. I am 30, I know when I was his age I was working full time and in school part time. I have worked for what I have and by God someone who want's to steal from me they deserve to be pistol whipped, multiple times. We had some teens breaking into vehicles and garages two years ago. They got a pistol and my GPS from my truck one night, broke into about 5 trucks and 1 garage that night. They eventually got busted because my neighbor had security footage. Nothing really happened to them, I say let them work it off for the neighborhood. If you wronged us let us make it right.