10-10-2012, 09:08 PM
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All ordered. I have a small spinning real and an UL rod already. Thank you all
How long should the leader be?
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10-10-2012, 09:38 PM
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All ordered. I have a small spinning real and an UL rod already. Thank you all
How long should the leader be?
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About 12 to 18 inches.
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10-11-2012, 09:36 AM
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Ordered last night and shipped this morning
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10-11-2012, 09:49 AM
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Ordered last night and shipped this morning
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He is really good about getting orders out quickly.
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10-13-2012, 03:17 PM
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All my stuff showed up today. Now to find a place to catch some crappie with my little boat
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10-13-2012, 05:59 PM
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Many years before the Trout Magnets came along, I really got into fishing for crappie and panfish with finesse tackle and microjigs. I would use a long, ultra light spinning rod, line no heavier than 4 lb test, and 1/32 or 1/64 oz jigs with curly tail grubs in the smallest sizes I could find. I'd fish with a float or casting bubble for depth control and extra casting weight for the super-light jigs.
The secret was to figure out the depth where the fish were holding, let the jig flutter down to that depth, and then twitch it back as slowly as possible. A lot of times the fish (bluegill especially) would hit the jig on the very first fall. It was effective on white bass, yellow bass, crappie, and occasional largemouth too.
I think most of the forage that panfish eat is smaller than a lot of fishermen realize. And they eat a lot of insect larvae and tiny baby baitfish, which are not fast swimmers. I think you miss some fish if your lure is too big or too fast.
Nowadays, I mostly fly fish, but when I fish for panfish, I frequently use the same techniques with flies that may be even lighter than the jigs I used to use. It is very effective.
The Trout Magnet method is very effective, but I don't think there is anything magic about the lure itself at all. In my opinion, the secret is fishing the right depth with light line; a very small, light jig; and a slow retrieve.
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10-13-2012, 06:49 PM
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light line
i rumaged through my garage and found some "realline" co-polymer that is 4lb test line.. its not 2lb but being a copolymer does that mean that its about the same diameter at the 2lb test. I also bought some "Suffix" fluorocarbon" that is 6lb test .. but the diameter is only 0.01 .... which i believe may also be same diameter as 2lbs test .. so i got 300yds of the copolymer and 200yds of the fluoro. how would you set up the crappie reel.. would you go copoly with a fluoro. leader or go all fluoro and hope i got some left for leader material on another reel or just set 2 up with 1 on each..i also got little kids (2) and they just got some little zebcos.. i dont think they hold more than 50yds which is stronger for little kids that get hung all the time? or maybe I need to find some cheap 2# for them.
OR is there some other option you would suggest. eventhough this si 4 and 6lb it seems the diameter is small enough and that would seem to me be the important part
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10-18-2012, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bd-
Many years before the Trout Magnets came along, I really got into fishing for crappie and panfish with finesse tackle and microjigs. I would use a long, ultra light spinning rod, line no heavier than 4 lb test, and 1/32 or 1/64 oz jigs with curly tail grubs in the smallest sizes I could find. I'd fish with a float or casting bubble for depth control and extra casting weight for the super-light jigs.
The secret was to figure out the depth where the fish were holding, let the jig flutter down to that depth, and then twitch it back as slowly as possible. A lot of times the fish (bluegill especially) would hit the jig on the very first fall. It was effective on white bass, yellow bass, crappie, and occasional largemouth too.
I think most of the forage that panfish eat is smaller than a lot of fishermen realize. And they eat a lot of insect larvae and tiny baby baitfish, which are not fast swimmers. I think you miss some fish if your lure is too big or too fast.
Nowadays, I mostly fly fish, but when I fish for panfish, I frequently use the same techniques with flies that may be even lighter than the jigs I used to use. It is very effective.
The Trout Magnet method is very effective, but I don't think there is anything magic about the lure itself at all. In my opinion, the secret is fishing the right depth with light line; a very small, light jig; and a slow retrieve.
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You are right bd about the light gear. I just got in some Wooly Bugs made by a fly shop on a #10 hook with a 5mm tungsten bead in a deep purple...looks good. This "fly jig"...as they call it....was patterned after the Wooly Bugger......which I am sure you are familiar with but I am not. I am going to try it out in the morning. If this works out....and I think it will...will be getting more of them.
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10-18-2012, 10:09 PM
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i rumaged through my garage and found some "realline" co-polymer that is 4lb test line.. its not 2lb but being a copolymer does that mean that its about the same diameter at the 2lb test....
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Not really any difference in line size between mono, copoly, or flouro. Flouro is a pain on small spinning rods, imo it good only for leader material if you decide to go that route.
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10-21-2012, 06:15 PM
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OK, I am totally hooked now. (Not literally) But I took my sister out today on Priest to find some crappie. She was using minnows and I tried the crappie and trout magnets out on some light gear. Man, I had a blast! These things work great. Coming from a bassin' background I think I made quite a few fish cross eyed I set the hook way too hard. I couldn't believe how many strikes I would get on a cast. They were short striking it though, pulled half my tails off the magnets. If no one has tried these I would highly suggest them. Thanks again to all the people who turned me on to these great baits.
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10-22-2012, 10:43 AM
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That's awesome man. I ordered some of the Magnets myself based on all the good feedback on here. I think I might be able to get out there next weekend with you if you wind up going again.
Bill
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10-22-2012, 11:13 AM
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MPD816,
If you were getting the tails pulled a lot, most likely you were getting bit by bluegills.
Crappie or any other predator fish, will usually inhale a smaller bait like that.
Bluegills have smaller mouths so any hook larger than a #10, they probably won't get hooked.
A bluegill bite will feel more like a tap-tap-tap than a bump or single tug.
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10-23-2012, 01:10 AM
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Agelessone,
Thanks for the info. That's why I hope you heal up real soon so I can pick your brain a little more. I thought I was setting the hook too hard. First time using ultralight gear. I did catch about 10 crappie on them but I swear all the crappie in priest are 9 7/8". Stopped at the bait shop to talk to the old timers ( NO offense intended to my elders, but with age comes wisdom) and I don't know crap about how to catch crappie, but they told me hardly anybody is catching any numbers or good size ones. If they are, they have lock jaw.
Bill,
I have to work the Mtsu football game Sat, but I'm going to try and get out Sun. I won't have to work another Sat, until last of November (football anyways) All these people who like to run everywhere has ruined all my fishing trips on Sat. for the last month and a half. Half marathon, 5k runs, charity walks,etc. Don't these people realize that I have to get my fishing fix! I should be available for some fishing trips between now and then. Just let me know.
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10-23-2012, 08:02 AM
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MPD,
I am getting out fishing every great once in a while now, but only when my neighbor can go as I'm not allowed to drive. So I can't get my boat to the lake unless someone drives my truck and boat there for me.
Going to pick up an 18 ft Fisher Hawk today with the wife so we may try fishing for a little while just to check out the boat. I'm thinkin a couple more weeks before the Dr. let's me start walking on the foot and then I'll be allowed to drive.....by the wife! She's like a drill sergeant making me stay off of the leg/foot til the Dr says GO.
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10-23-2012, 09:47 AM
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Agelessone,
Like alot of guys on here, we would just like to see you healed up. I've been in Tenn. for about 15 years and don't plan on going anywhere so we will have plenty of time to meet and fish. Just get better soon.
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