04-05-2012, 05:39 PM
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If the hooks on a crankbait are size 6 or smaller then you can legally have three crankbaits on the rig.
Maybe less confusing:
Greater than 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm but only (1) can have a single hook.
Less than and including size 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm.
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04-05-2012, 06:04 PM
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So, as I understand, one can only use 3 baits never 5, right?
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04-05-2012, 06:08 PM
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04-05-2012, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bluemarlin
So, as I understand, one can only use 3 baits never 5, right?
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Yes, no matter how you mix it up.
The thing that makes our regs seem odd is they were in place far before this A-Rig came on the scene and has nothing to do with it. The regs are intended to prevent striped bass mortality instead. Since they were already on the books this way, we have to go by them until its changed or amended.
It will be changed at some point.
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04-19-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tennesseejugger
Make your own, go to Lowe's and get some marker flags, cut to desired length. Then get some JB waterweld...take one of the wires and bend to make an eye, take a wooden board place some cooking oil on it SO putty does not stick. Kneed your putty and make it flat on the board. Place wire with eye in the middle. take a hammer and mash the ends of the two other wires so that they will not slip out. Place other two wires on each side of wire with eye. roll putty around wires and shape it like a fish head. Let cure for 24 hours. Take the opp end of wire and place a good swivel on wire and bend to make an eye so that swivel will remain. paint head and paint on some eyes and there you have it!
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Man thanks for the tips.Gonna have to try that out just for the fun of it.Own several a rigs and absolutely love them in the right conditions and areas.
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04-19-2012, 10:26 AM
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I guess I am missing something here. I am an ultra light fisherman and my primary species that I go after are trout and smallmouth. Doesn't using this thing take some of the fun out of fishing? 50 lb. braid? I guess everyone has their own things that they enjoy but I still enjoy fishing as a sport. Trying to convince a fish to hit a single bait, fighting it on light line and feeling like it is a fair match. I guess I just don't understand the need to have multiple baits and from what i understand there is basically no skill needed to throw those rigs. I do know that when I see someone throw one it is like throwing a big rock in the water. I am surprised it doesn't scare off all of the fish....lol just my .02 cents worth. Not wanting to make anyone mad just looking to be schooled.
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04-19-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by browntrout
I guess I am missing something here. I am an ultra light fisherman and my primary species that I go after are trout and smallmouth. Doesn't using this thing take some of the fun out of fishing? 50 lb. braid? I guess everyone has their own things that they enjoy but I still enjoy fishing as a sport. Trying to convince a fish to hit a single bait, fighting it on light line and feeling like it is a fair match. I guess I just don't understand the need to have multiple baits and from what i understand there is basically no skill needed to throw those rigs. I do know that when I see someone throw one it is like throwing a big rock in the water. I am surprised it doesn't scare off all of the fish....lol just my .02 cents worth. Not wanting to make anyone mad just looking to be schooled.
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Personally, I prefer your fishing methods. I do not even have interest in tournament fishing. The fun in fishing leaves for me when it becomes work.
Anyone can reel a fish in on 20 lb or greater line. A lot of those heavy line fishermen would lose most of their fish on light line.
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04-19-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE
Personally, I prefer your fishing methods. I do not even have interest in tournament fishing. The fun in fishing leaves for me when it becomes work.
Anyone can reel a fish in on 20 lb or greater line. A lot of those heavy line fishermen would lose most of their fish on light line.
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The heavy line is to keep from losing a $25 a-rig along with another $10-20 in lures!!! That's the main reason behind the heavy line!!! And if all your doing is fishing big open water the light line will be fine but.you get to flipping and pitching in stumps,brush and grass I bet that light line will leave you frustrated if you do it enough!!
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04-19-2012, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by titansfan2104
The heavy line is to keep from losing a $25 a-rig along with another $10-20 in lures!!! That's the main reason behind the heavy line!!! And if all your doing is fishing big open water the light line will be fine but.you get to flipping and pitching in stumps,brush and grass I bet that light line will leave you frustrated if you do it enough!!
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I know why heavy line is used. All I am saying is I would prefer to catch fish on 8lb or less. Some use the heavy line and heavy rods in practically all situations. I prefer finessing the fish as opposed to simply winching them in. That is just me and I am probably in the minority.
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04-19-2012, 10:13 PM
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I focus this rig primarily on hybrid. If it catches bass in the process, then that's fine. Considering the weight of the rig with a fish on it and the possibility that you may hang more than one at a time, 50 lb braid is minimum.
Although I have a rod outfitted with one, I keep it ready for any fish busting bait. I don't throw it as much as I thought. It will wear you out quick and because of the weight, only really practical in open (deep) water.
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04-22-2012, 12:48 PM
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Couldn't figure out how to imbed video but here's a link..This video gives a better visual as to whats legal and whats not..Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyB0S9rIjac
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04-22-2012, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE
Personally, I prefer your fishing methods. I do not even have interest in tournament fishing. The fun in fishing leaves for me when it becomes work.
Anyone can reel a fish in on 20 lb or greater line. A lot of those heavy line fishermen would lose most of their fish on light line.
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Amen, brother. For me, it's all about getting out there, seeing a sunrise, having some peace and quiet, and time for myself. If I catch fish, that's great but if I don't, I enjoy myself just as much.
Line - I have 4, 8 & 10 pound line on all my reels except the one I use for jig fishing..that one has 40-pound braid mainly because of where I like to throw my jigs, they tend to get snagged a lot and with that braid, I either pull whatever the lure is snagged on out of the water or I straighten the hook
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04-22-2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bluemarlin
So, as I understand, one can only use 3 baits never 5, right?
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Not exactly. If your baits have smaller than #6 hooks you can use as many as you want.
So if you have a crappie umbrella rig with 5 lures, all with #8 hooks, you're fine.
If the hooks are #6 or larger, you can never have more than 3.
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04-22-2012, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis C.
If the hooks on a crankbait are size 6 or smaller then you can legally have three crankbaits on the rig.
Maybe less confusing:
Greater than 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm but only (1) can have a single hook.
Less than and including size 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm.
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Sorry, Travis, but this is incorrect.
The rule says "size 6 or larger."
So if your hooks are size 6 or larger, you can only have three lures. Those three lures can have any number of hooks - for example, three crankbaits would be fine. If you use more than three lures, only one can have a single hook. So you could use five swimbaits or spinnerbaits on an umbrella rig, but you have to cut off all the hooks but one single hook.
Less than size 6 (NOT less than and including), you can have as many lures as you want.
Attachment to the arm doesn't make any difference. Even a sabiki rig falls under this rule as an "array of lures" even though it has no umbrella arms.
bd
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04-22-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bd-
Sorry, Travis, but this is incorrect.
The rule says "size 6 or larger."
So if your hooks are size 6 or larger, you can only have three lures. Those three lures can have any number of hooks - for example, three crankbaits would be fine. If you use more than three lures, only one can have a single hook. So you could use five swimbaits or spinnerbaits on an umbrella rig, but you have to cut off all the hooks but one single hook.
Less than size 6 (NOT less than and including), you can have as many lures as you want.
Attachment to the arm doesn't make any difference. Even a sabiki rig falls under this rule as an "array of lures" even though it has no umbrella arms.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
I wish they'd make a little more cut and dry when they revist the reg.
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