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[pitbull]

"I am certainly no mechanic, however, if a lack of fuel/oil mixture in the cylinder caused the problem the brand of oil would not matter."



If you're not a mechanic then how would you know the type of oil wouldn't matter?

Funny story, I argued with a police officer for over an hour one afternoon about oil, he had just stopped where I was parked and asked had I done any good, which went on into a conversation about boat motors at some point. The argument started when I asked what oil he used in his (much bragged about) Allison with a 200 merc, to which he happily bragged he uses the $12 a gallon blue bottle stuff at walmart and that I was a fool to pay the $30 a gallon for the stuff I use.... Well, I ran into that same guy a few weeks ago, him saying just ordered a new power head I couldn't help but ask why? Clotted up blue bottle oil in the carbs leaned out 2 cylinders, one of which looked similar to mine in the picture he showed me.... He has now seen the light... I'm not saying it will happen every time, but just like with anything else, sometimes you get exactly what you pay for.

[JKTrevecca]

Originally Posted by fisher01

I'm wondering what caused the lean condition in that cylinder only?

Me Too! I cleaned the carbs last night as I've been told it's possible apiece of dirt blocked the high speed jet which makes me nervous it could/will happen again! I'm going to add an additional in-line fuel filter when I put it back together.

[fisher01]

Yep, I was thinking that maybe one of the jets got clogged. Good idea with the in-line filter.

[SAMBOLIE]

Originally Posted by pitbull

"I am certainly no mechanic, however, if a lack of fuel/oil mixture in the cylinder caused the problem the brand of oil would not matter."



If you're not a mechanic then how would you know the type of oil wouldn't matter?

Funny story, I argued with a police officer for over an hour one afternoon about oil, he had just stopped where I was parked and asked had I done any good, which went on into a conversation about boat motors at some point. The argument started when I asked what oil he used in his (much bragged about) Allison with a 200 merc, to which he happily bragged he uses the $12 a gallon blue bottle stuff at walmart and that I was a fool to pay the $30 a gallon for the stuff I use.... Well, I ran into that same guy a few weeks ago, him saying just ordered a new power head I couldn't help but ask why? Clotted up blue bottle oil in the carbs leaned out 2 cylinders, one of which looked similar to mine in the picture he showed me.... He has now seen the light... I'm not saying it will happen every time, but just like with anything else, sometimes you get exactly what you pay for.

I suppose you now know why I am not a mechanic.

Once again I will show my ignorance against your superior knowledge. I have never seen outboard motor oil clot as you described. Sounds more like trash got in the fuel since it did not clot in the other cylinders as well.

[JKTrevecca]

Used outboard is here. Carbs are cleaned. New base gasket is here. Base is cleaned and ready for install. I have to work 1/2 day this morning but I'm pumped to get this thing going again this afternoon! Keeping my fingers and legs crossed that this used powerhead isn't a hunk of junk. It certainly looks clean and I can tell it's never been split apart.

[pitbull]

Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE

I suppose you now know why I am not a mechanic.

Once again I will show my ignorance against your superior knowledge. I have never seen outboard motor oil clot as you described. Sounds more like trash got in the fuel since it did not clot in the other cylinders as well.

I always ask the oil question, not that in his case I thought it was the culprit either really. Most of the time cheap oil carbons up in the ring lands and causes the ring to catch in one of the port windows, which breaks it and then the caca makes contact with the oscillating wind maker as the French say.... I generally ask the oil question to gauge the person, 90% of the cheap oil guys you can't tell them anything about anything, so there isn't much point in trying to help at all.... Sorry if I had a rude rebuttal to your reply, The real point is hopefully JK gets his boat going in time, I've been there and it sucks...

[JKTrevecca]

Back in business! Buttoned up the install Thursday a including a water pump assy with housing and cup. Started it first thing this morning in a trashcan full of water and it idled great. Borrowed a timing light and set the timing to factory specs. Then off to the lake. That's when it got weird. She shot out of the hole great but fell on her face after about 10 seconds. Troubleshooting all day and finally at 11:30 I took the factory canister fuel filter apart and sure enough... I had put the cartridge in upside down blocking the flow of fuel. Flipped it over and we're ready to go. My brother in law will be leaving Missouri in the morning and will be glad to hear that he won't need to drag his boat the whole way here. I'll be taking it easy more often than not moving forward. I am running 93 octane with yamalube oil and Lucas additive. 3/4 throttle or less. I don't have thousand dollar bills just laying around for this crap to happen again.

Can't wait to fish! I can smell it!

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[tkwalker]

JK, Glad everything worked out for you ... <'TK><

[SAMBOLIE]

JK, you dah man. Glad that you are up and running again.

[SAMBOLIE]

Originally Posted by pitbull

I always ask the oil question, not that in his case I thought it was the culprit either really. Most of the time cheap oil carbons up in the ring lands and causes the ring to catch in one of the port windows, which breaks it and then the caca makes contact with the oscillating wind maker as the French say.... I generally ask the oil question to gauge the person, 90% of the cheap oil guys you can't tell them anything about anything, so there isn't much point in trying to help at all.... Sorry if I had a rude rebuttal to your reply, The real point is hopefully JK gets his boat going in time, I've been there and it sucks...

You are a rookie at being rude. Just look at some of Merv, Juice or Jimmy's responses.
JK's has some talent. He is up and running.

[agelesssone]

Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE

You are a rookie at being rude. Just look at some of Merv, Juice or Jimmy's responses.
JK's has some talent. He is up and running.

Being rude us an art. Me, Juice, and Jimmy are just masters of our craft!

[XxthejuicexX]

Originally Posted by agelesssone

Being rude us an art. Me, Juice, and Jimmy are just masters of our craft!

I've not had a single reply in this board and I get drug in by Merv and Sambolie! For what it's worth I run the extended life yellow jug of oil In my motor. Never had a problem. I run cheap ethanol gas and cheap oil. I guess my boats like me, a cheap ass! Good work with the motor by the way.

[pitbull]

I can assure you I play at a level in the top ranked pro leagues... But, it always winds up with me getting banned from the forum, which are trophies I have more of than I care to mention... I've just found if it's a forum I like the content of and maybe occasionally have something to offer to, I'm reluctant to suit up and play ball, sometimes I don't know when to quit.

[pitbull]

Originally Posted by XxthejuicexX

I've not had a single reply in this board and I get drug in by Merv and Sambolie! For what it's worth I run the extended life yellow jug of oil In my motor. Never had a problem. I run cheap ethanol gas and cheap oil. I guess my boats like me, a cheap ass! Good work with the motor by the way.

What I consider cheap is the $12 a gallon blue jug special at Walmart, Pennzoil makes a pretty decent oil.

[TNBronzeback]

So joking aside.....does anybody here do all the "recommended" engine treatments like sea foam or injector cleaner, ect every fill up? I know if you run ethenol gas you should add a treatment to preserve the gaskets, ect but what about the laundry list of other stuff available to prevent build-ups, deposits, ect?