Dam Restriction update From Doug Markham - FishingTN.com Tennessee's Fishing and Boating Community

creeksmallie · #1 12-10-2012, 10:26 PM

I have learned today that the "public" meeting the Corps intends to hold as it concerns boat restrictions below dams will be to TELL US WHAT THE NEW RESTRICTIONS will be. If it is a public hearing or meeting, I hope we all gather in numbers they have never seen before to tell them that THIS IS OUR STATE. I will keep you posted. Look for Mike Organ to have an article in Thursday's Tennessean.

j19bill · #2 12-10-2012, 11:57 PM

So basically their just going to tell us what they are going to do and to hell with what we think ...

I see all fazes of the government are the same.

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Catch & Release · #3 12-12-2012, 02:31 PM

Here is the # to Lamar Alexander's office in Washington:202 224 4944
I believe he is the only one who can stop this. Everyone please give him a call and let them know you thoughts on this issue, because I believe after tomorrow it will be all over but the crying.....

fisher01 · #4 12-12-2012, 03:13 PM

Here's Lieutenant Colonel James A. DeLapp Commander

Brigadier General Margaret W. Burcham
Commander and Division Engineer
Great Lakes and Ohio River Division

U.S.Army Engineer Division,
Great Lakes & Ohio River Division
ATTN: Public Affairs Office
550 Main Street, Room 10524
Cincinnati, Ohio 45202-3222
(513) 684-3010
http://www.lrd.usace.army.mil/

Time is running out, here is who the Lieutenant Colonel reports to. We need our voices heard.

Mnfishingbum · #5 12-12-2012, 03:19 PM

Where and when is this meeting?

Travis C. · #6 12-12-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnfishingbum

Where and when is this meeting?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Dec.11, 2012) - On Dec. 13, 2012, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will announce its change in operation to comply with existing policy on Restricted Access to Hazardous Waters around Corps Dams. The announcement follows a week that saw productive meetings between the Nashville District Commander, Lt. Col. James DeLapp, and other Corps officials with members of the Tennessee and Kentucky congressional delegations and other key stakeholders.

WHO: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Nashville District

WHAT: Announce its plans to implement Corps policy on Restricted Access to Hazardous Water around Corps Dams

WHEN: Thursday, Dec. 13, 2012 at 1-2 p.m. CST

WHERE: ViaTeleconference

Travis C. · #7 12-12-2012, 03:53 PM

Not much time for public input or gathering to show support via telephone for an hour...

I guess get ready to hear what they decided.

tkwalker · #8 12-12-2012, 07:43 PM

Did you see the segment on CH 4 tonight at 6:30 (12-12-12) ... May be back on at 10:00 .... <'TK><

Alphahawk · #9 12-12-2012, 07:47 PM

Yep saw it. I just hope this gets stopped. I am sick to death of "Big Brother".

Regards

Greasy Ham · #10 12-12-2012, 10:29 PM

Isn't there something about waterways being public domain or something like that which would not allow this? I mean it's technically a river. Not a lake on private land.
I'm grasping at straws I know.

agelesssone · #11 12-12-2012, 11:02 PM

A friend, who is ex-military, says that all this is, is a military person leaving himself a "legacy", making his mark as it were, disregarding the wishes of the constituents of the state of Tennessee because they have no bearing on his actions nor are of any consequence to him, as he is not an elected official and cannot be held to harm for his actions.

Maybe the next commander of the Corps of Engineers can/will retract this moron's actions. We can only hope so because this action of restricting access to the immediate tail waters seems to be a foregone conclusion at this point in time.

I note that the TWRA officers on this page are decrying this action also, but in the next breath, they will be the ones issuing citations to boaters who venture into the "no boating" zone. If they are really serious about not wanting these restrictions, maybe they'll be "too busy" to write citations for these transgressions.....much the same as they don't seem to care to write citations to illegal fishermen below the dams who keep everything that comes ashore in their castnets.

If I have to pay taxes and register and number a canoe just because I put a "TROLLING MOTOR" on it, I'd like to see some enforcement of the laws already on the books concerning the castnetting crowd.

I'm done venting, thank you for reading!

Alphahawk · #12 12-12-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by agelesssone

A friend, who is ex-military, says that all this is, is a military person leaving himself a "legacy", making his mark as it were, disregarding the wishes of the constituents of the state of Tennessee because they have no bearing on his actions nor are of any consequence to him, as he is not an elected official and cannot be held to harm for his actions.

Maybe the next commander of the Corps of Engineers can/will retract this moron's actions. We can only hope so because this action of restricting access to the immediate tail waters seems to be a foregone conclusion at this point in time.

I note that the TWRA officers on this page are decrying this action also, but in the next breath, they will be the ones issuing citations to boaters who venture into the "no boating" zone. If they are really serious about not wanting these restrictions, maybe they'll be "too busy" to write citations for these transgressions.....much the same as they don't seem to care to write citations to illegal fishermen below the dams who keep everything that comes ashore in their castnets.

If I have to pay taxes and register and number a canoe just because I put a "TROLLING MOTOR" on it, I'd like to see some enforcement of the laws already on the books concerning the castnetting crowd.

I'm done venting, thank you for reading!

Having a 7 year career in the Army.....then another 23 years working with a major defense firm and working with and around the Army...you come to learn once a regulation is made it is very hard to overturn. Doug Markham mentioned this also. It does not matter how stupid a regulation is once it is made it is done. My hope is that due to all the publicity that someone above that O5 has told him to drop it. If enough pressure was to be put on his superiors...say the O6's and General ranking officers they could tell him to squash it and I can assure he would....that is if he ever wanted to be promoted to O6. Makes me wonder though is this idea strictly from Lt. Colonel DeLapp...or someone above him. I guess we will find out tomorrow who's idea this is and what it will entail. Then our work will begin if the tailraces are closed to fishing. There is no doubt that we as sportsman will make such a ruckus that it will get somebody's attention much higher than a Lt. Colonel.

Regards

tkwalker · #13 12-13-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

Having a 7 year career in the Army.....then another 23 years working with a major defense firm and working with and around the Army...you come to learn once a regulation is made it is very hard to overturn. Doug Markham mentioned this also. It does not matter how stupid a regulation is once it is made it is done. My hope is that due to all the publicity that someone above that O5 has told him to drop it. If enough pressure was to be put on his superiors...say the O6's and General ranking officers they could tell him to squash it and I can assure he would....that is if he ever wanted to be promoted to O6. Makes me wonder though is this idea strictly from Lt. Colonel DeLapp...or someone above him. I guess we will find out tomorrow who's idea this is and what it will entail. Then our work will begin if the tailraces are closed to fishing. There is no doubt that we as sportsman will make such a ruckus that it will get somebody's attention much higher than a Lt. Colonel.

Regards

Thanks Alpha great post ... Folks I Have kept Doug Markham abreast of FTI post and our support ... Please keep posting and sending protest to our political gaurdians, Some better than others !!! .. I really don't think TWRA will police any of these new restrictions... <'TK>< .. To much federal control !! ... I think Alpha hit it dead on !!!

Alphahawk · #14 12-13-2012, 12:17 AM

In doing some research on this I came across this article. http://www.yankton.net/articles/2012...6589513365.txt

I tell you guys not only our politicians not able to do any constructive work...but they are allowing rules and regulations to be made that serve no purpose other than control. This is really disturbing.

Regards

jad2t · #15 12-13-2012, 12:23 AM

I'm absolutely disgusted by this. I planned to spend a lot of time bank fishing the OHD generation starting next week now that the semester as ended. As rough of a semester as it was, I was really looking forward to enjoying what I enjoy most. Apparently starting tomorrow we will no longer be allowed.

Merv brings up a great point. I will be outraged at the TWRA if they decide to start ticketing people for fishing below the dams meanwhile ignoring any report they get of illegal immigrants keeping everything in their cast nets. IF they support our opinion on this, as they say they do, they should just "not notice" me fishing below the dam next week.