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Old 01-21-2015, 10:43 AM
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Merv, have you had any of the braids you tested out in the freezing temps? If so after fishing did you strip off a fair amount prior to testing. The ice in rods eyes can be hell on braid.

Also for live bait rods or even trolling, I would personally wouldn't go any more than 20 Berkley Big Game. With the right rods/drag and playing of fish it seems that would be enough for a high landing rate given the target fish around here.
Speaking of freezing temps. If you fish in the cold like I do spray Blakemores Reel Magic on your rod guides it helps so they don't accumulate ice. Sometimes in the cold it just helps to spray some on regardless.
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:01 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, what type of rod do you use in this setup? I have leaned on fish pretty hard with 20lb braid and had it pull free from their (striper) mouth during the fight. It seems some where in your setup there should be some give to keep from pulling it out of them or straightening hooks using that strong of line.

I have never used anything over 65lb so I have no experience with what you have and was wondering.

When I fish striper in tight battling quarters, I use an 8' Heavy action custom musky stick with 80 pp and a calcutta 400b with the drag locked down. I've lost very few fish, maybe 2-3 in 20-30 fish in the 20-40 lb range caught with that setup. I haven't had a problem with bent hooks or ripping from the mouth.


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Old 01-21-2015, 04:03 PM
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[QUOTE=SAMBOLIE;60549][QUOTE=

Castability would be relative to the weight of the lure. Juice had difficulty learning to cast a TM on 80 lb braid.[/QUOTE]


I gave up on the 80, switched to 4lb. I have only broke fish off due to being to lazy to retie two Trout magnets when needed.
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Old 01-22-2015, 12:35 AM
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I have used power pro for several years know, all I fish for is striper and I have never had any issues with it, I order mine online from Cabelas or Bass pro because I use 200lb test and they rarely carry it in stores. But I have heard of counterfeit line being sold on ebay and other online stores. When I have a fish on I never worry about line breaking and I lean on the fish HARD. Cant say I have ever fought a fish more than a couple minutes, two at most, I do this because I am an avid catch and release fisherman and the longer you fight them the less likely they are going to swim away.
200lb Power Pro is equivalent to 50lb Mono. What kind of reel are you spooling this on? I have 30lb mono on some of my saltwater rigs and it doesn't feel like much line is on the reel. I have 25lb mono on a Curado 301E, and I feel like I'm about to spool it sometimes on the cast. Just wondering what reel you are using, and how much line you are getting on that reel. Even like an Abu Garcia 6500 C3 I wouldn't think you could get over 50yds of 200lb Power Pro.
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Old 01-23-2015, 05:20 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, what type of rod do you use in this setup? I have leaned on fish pretty hard with 20lb braid and had it pull free from their (striper) mouth during the fight. It seems some where in your setup there should be some give to keep from pulling it out of them or straightening hooks using that strong of line.

I have never used anything over 65lb so I have no experience with what you have and was wondering.
My favorite rods I built myself, they are 8 ft blanks with roller guides, rated at 40-80lb line. The blanks are 1' at the base, I also use some 8 ft ugly sticks from bass pro that work well. I use Abu Garcia 10000i reels on my live bait rods, I am not exactly sure how much of the 200lb it holds but it is far more then I have ever needed.
for casting I use Pete Mania musky rods(dont believe they make them anymore, but they have similar rods at bass pro) The reels on my casting rods are abu garcia 6501, and as someone mentioned the line capacity on these is low with the 200lb line, but with the 200lb line I have never had a problem turning them in time. Now with all that being said I have had hooks pull out on a rare occasion, and have had hooks pull out of the body of the redfins, I also change out the hooks that come with them because they straighten out way too easy.
I am sharing this info because I believe too many fisherman fish with way to small of tackle for trophy striper, if you fight them too long or break off, they are not likely to survive. I release all the fish I catch, because I hope to catch them again one day.

Here is a thread just posted to justify what I am talking about:
There seems to be a fella that fished next to me this morning who learned to fish for rockies from your first experience.
Uses 10 lb mono, but throws flukes instead of expensive top water baits, ties into three fish this morning, one spooled his first reel so there is a fish running loose with 150 yds of 10 lb mono hanging on him/her. The next fish runs off like the last one so he cranks down the drag and the fish snaps the line.
The next fish can't be controlled with the light line so it runs amok, picking up two live bait lines thirty yds off to the side of said fisherman. The fish then goes under the barrier, behind my boat where the line goes over my outboard lower unit. End result is me hand lining a 26 lb striper back to my boat, netting it, (couldn't find my gaff) cutting off the fluke and giving it and the fish back to the fisherman, cutting one live line apart and sending the other live line and hook back to the other fishermen.
And this guy fishes with ten lb mono all the time. When he gets a fish on, people have to stop fishing because his fish run all over the place.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:37 PM
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Merv, after some research I think I have found why you have so many break offs with mono. Those Zebco 33's have a pin on the spool lip that pops up when you engage the reel to retrieve. If not properly lubed the pin will not fully extend and it frays the line.

Hope that helps.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:04 PM
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Merv, after some research I think I have found why you have so many break offs with mono. Those Zebco 33's have a pin on the spool lip that pops up when you engage the reel to retrieve. If not properly lubed the pin will not fully extend and it frays the line.

Hope that helps.
Now you've made me feel bad SAMBOLIE.....I appreciate you thinking I had the means AND intelligence to use Zebco 33's. They been on my wish list for decades!

Having given away three houses to my ex-wives (they were all excellent "housekeepers"), alas, I'm afraid the 33's may just remain a pipedream, pie in the sky, fiction instead of fact.

I'll just keep plugging along with my trusty ol Zebco 404's. At least when I buy one of those, I don't have to go buyin no line to spool them with as they come with some pretty darn good stuff already packed on'em.

I could use some new hooks though. Them #2 bronze aberdeen don't seem to hold up too well with them 5 lb monster rockies I beena catchin'.

Mebbe you could buy me one of them 33's you been talking about? My birthday is comin' up purty quick, ya know?
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:07 PM
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Merv, the amazing part of this is that you have found 4 women that would marry you.
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Merv, the amazing part of this is that you have found 4 women that would marry you.
What can I say to that?

I'm just a charming beast!

Hell, last night I had to turn down one old gal in the bar, she wanted me bad......................


I was in the Texas Rose last night, at the bar waiting for a beer, when a butt-ugly, big old girl came up behind me, and slapped me on the butt.

She said, “Hey sexy, how about giving me your number.”

I looked at her and said, “Do you have a pen?”

She said, “I sure do."

I said, “Well, you better get back into it, before the farmer notices you’re missing.”

My dental surgery is on Monday.

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