Barrier crossed??

[jad2t]

Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE

That might result in an ass whooping.

I think that risk can be run by using somebody's name in a forum and this doesn't need to escalate to that point. We all know the phrase of what happens to snitches don't we? I'd like to see his name removed from this forum. It's not fair to put him on blast like that.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong to cross the barrier and fish for a bit, but going and telling authorities about it will likely result in us not being allowed to fish there. Since we all know who he is now, talk to him personally if you have an issue with it.

[Halli]

Originally Posted by jad2t

My question is how in the world did someone survive the extreme dangers that the barrier is there to protect us from? TWICE!!! He must have an angel watching him at all times!

Anyone else see my point there?

The reason for the barrier is for overhead protection of falling frame work/anything the crane lifts to build the new scrubbers, It is a mandate that TVA reduce Emissions and this is part of process. The contractors can't put up a barrier during the day then remove during non work periods.

As for the guy entering the area unless it has a red tagout or red tape across the area then you will only be asked to leave but of course they do also have on hand there own Federal police force onsite so why push it.

We as local Middle Tennesseans could ask for the barrier to be moved from Point A. closer to the plant at point B. during the winter months rather than at the mouth of the outlet as it would appear to be away from a falling crane's length.

[XxthejuicexX]

Halli, It never hurts to ask. I think that would make a lot of people very happy.

[agelesssone]

My opinion, as highly regarded as it is, is that the barrier is in a very good place. It is wider there than any further upstream thusly more people are able to access the fishable waters upstream. Move the barrier to point "B" and the area açess is decreased somewhat.
If you disagree with my opinion, please keep your comments to yourself as I am always right!

[XxthejuicexX]

Originally Posted by agelesssone

My opinion, as highly regarded as it is, is that the barrier is in a very good place. It is wider there than any further upstream thusly more people are able to access the fishable waters upstream. Move the barrier to point "B" and the area açess is decreased somewhat.
If you disagree with my opinion, please keep your comments to yourself as I am always right!

Wait.... that don't make no sense

[agelesssone]

Point "B" is narrower than point "A" and everyone will try to belly up to the barrier just as they do now.

I realize there would be more of the channel opened up, but look at the facts now. We have the whole big bay open behind the barrier, yet everyone wants to fish above the barrier. It would be the same if the barrier was moved to point "B".

And let me remind you....I'm always right!

[XxthejuicexX]

Okay, I thought you were just being a smart ass. I would hope that with the additional space to fish not everyone would belly up to the barrier. I know I would rather have the additional space to fish with the barrier moved up. I get tired of sitting up against the barrier throwing at the same water.

[agelesssone]

Myself, I wouldn't belly up to the bar as much as I do now because there are some good underwater breaks and contours further upstream of the barrier placement now. I'd be more worried about the dummies running their big motors up into the channel. Rockfish aren't very noise friendly and will avoid an area with a lot of boat traffic.

[XxthejuicexX]

I would hope people would not drive all the way up into the channel, but it would not surprise me. The last couple times out multiple people have got their panties in a wad over various things, can't imagine the fights that would start with being hauling balls into the channel.

[TNBronzeback]

In my opinion, and we all know the old saying about opinions, but in this particular case, the grass isnt always greener on the other side. I say that hypothetically. If there were only ever 3-4 boats/kayaks that fish there year round....the barrier move would work out good, but with the amount of boats and kayaks that can attempt to be against that barrier, it would just be compounded with more people wanting to relive the glory days of the steamplant pre-barrier along with the regulars that are there as of today. And like mentioned, there would be more people motoring up both fast and slow which would tick off other guys, causing waves and noise.
On paper it sounds and looks appealing no doubt, but i dont think it would benefit the fisherman in the long run if the barrier was moved back. No doubt alot of fish probably hang out way up there all.winter just waiting for the bait to come to them, but as it currently is sits, right at the mouth the fish have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Be there at the right time and the fish will be coming or going...there is no searching for them...they are going to pass thru sooner or later.
Just my 2 cents.

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by TNBronzeback

In my opinion, and we all know the old saying about opinions, but in this particular case, the grass isnt always greener on the other side. I say that hypothetically. If there were only ever 3-4 boats/kayaks that fish there year round....the barrier move would work out good, but with the amount of boats and kayaks that can attempt to be against that barrier, it would just be compounded with more people wanting to relive the glory days of the steamplant pre-barrier along with the regulars that are there as of today. And like mentioned, there would be more people motoring up both fast and slow which would tick off other guys, causing waves and noise.
On paper it sounds and looks appealing no doubt, but i dont think it would benefit the fisherman in the long run if the barrier was moved back. No doubt alot of fish probably hang out way up there all.winter just waiting for the bait to come to them, but as it currently is sits, right at the mouth the fish have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Be there at the right time and the fish will be coming or going...there is no searching for them...they are going to pass thru sooner or later.
Just my 2 cents.

X 2 .... Basically what Merv was saying ... Now remember folks what you are seeing in the overhead pic ... I saw first Hand from 1972 until 1984 One of my jobs was to calibrate and maintain the telemetry equipment for EPA ... I have 224 trips up those stacks manually before Elevators ... Did I take Binoculars Uummm sometimes and watch the fishing ... Did I learn anything ... somewhat <'TK><

[MNfisher]

Originally Posted by TNBronzeback

In my opinion, and we all know the old saying about opinions, but in this particular case, the grass isnt always greener on the other side. I say that hypothetically. If there were only ever 3-4 boats/kayaks that fish there year round....the barrier move would work out good, but with the amount of boats and kayaks that can attempt to be against that barrier, it would just be compounded with more people wanting to relive the glory days of the steamplant pre-barrier along with the regulars that are there as of today. And like mentioned, there would be more people motoring up both fast and slow which would tick off other guys, causing waves and noise.

On paper it sounds and looks appealing no doubt, but i dont think it would benefit the fisherman in the long run if the barrier was moved back. No doubt alot of fish probably hang out way up there all.winter just waiting for the bait to come to them, but as it currently is sits, right at the mouth the fish have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Be there at the right time and the fish will be coming or going...there is no searching for them...they are going to pass thru sooner or later.

Just my 2 cents.

Couldn't agree more. If the barrier was moved up. Then the fish would just move up. The areas where you catch fish now behind the barrier, would for the most part be void of fish due to boats. And yes, the boats would come in that channel on plane. It happened all the time pre barrier.


Mike

[Travis C.]

I think a much better barrier question is not whether it could be moved up but instead will it actually be removed once work is complete.

Personally it has made fishing far better due to people not being able to run up in down the channel wide open or pulling 4 planer boards while others are trying to fish it.

[txnative]

I don't normally agree to restricting access to fishing areas in a way that seems over zealous, but I have grown to love the barrier. To extend my reach, I've been bringing a 10' surf rod to bomb lures out to what were normally out-of-range areas. I've also tailored my gear to maximize casting distance. It's the age-old "adapt & overcome" approach. I'll be fine if the barrier becomes permanent, as I've been successful there. If it is removed, I have found established patterns that will be unaffected...it's all a matter of dealing with change, like so many aspects of fishing. Just my thoughts.


Chris Bryant

[XxthejuicexX]

Chris, I always thought the surf rod idea would be an awesome way of hurling lures into the canal. I think it would be cool to have access to all of it but then I have never been up the canal. It's only my second winter fishing the steam plant


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