New Hooks Worked

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by StriperFan

A couple of reasons, especially when fishing OH or one of the trophy fisheries. One, the chance of a huge 50# plus fish is possible. The river environment is ripe with snags, which they like to hang out near/in, and will be the first place they want to go. Second, the idea is to fight the fish to the boat as quick as possible to release as quick as possible. Stripers chance of survival goes down quite a bit if fought to the point of exhaustion. The hotter the weather the worse it is. Has to do with lactic acid build up. I witnessed another fisherman on here have a big fish break off 65# braid because he was set to zero drag, but if he wasn't he would have lost the fish to a log jam anyway. Might have even been 80# braid.

SF, You must have read every post I've made on this site about our trophy fishing in middle Tennessee ... You are right on !! especially the Lactic acid, you must work that tail repeatedly sideways so she can get the acid out of the muscle ... Also I am glad you brought up the size of tackle.. Some point in time every striper fisherman will wish he or she had a broom handle for a rod and cloths line rope for a line especially when old scaly face sounds and heads for the submerged log, but the primary reason is to get the fish in the boat ASAP for the survival of the fish .. ... Good Job ..<'TK><

[StriperFan]

[QUOTE=tkwalker;67134]SF, You must have read every post I've made on this site about our trophy fishing in middle Tennessee ... You are right on !! especially the Lactic acid, you must work that tail repeatedly sideways so she can get the acid out of the muscle ... Also I am glad you brought up the size of tackle.. Some point in time every striper fisherman will wish he or she had a broom handle for a rod and cloths line rope for a line especially when old scaly face sounds and heads for the submerged log, but the primary reason is to get the fish in the boat ASAP for the survival of the fish .. ... Good Job ..<'TK><[/QUOTE

You were the first I ever heard to wag the tail to help release the lactic acid and I've done it ever since. And I feel we get good release success rates, at least they swim away.

[JKTrevecca]

haha... thanks tk. do you think using the 50 pound on priest to fish for hybrids would have any adverse impacts? i'd hate to have to change line on all my rods when switching fishing spots.

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by JKTrevecca

haha... thanks tk. do you think using the 50 pound on priest to fish for hybrids would have any adverse impacts? i'd hate to have to change line on all my rods when switching fishing spots.

All of my guiding was done for trophies on the OH river chain .. I have fished JPP for Hybrids and stripers .... But I caught smaller schoolies on OH about the size of JPP Hybrids and stripers with 50# ... I don't see why not ... I did well On Priest ... with it ... <'TK><

[FloatNFish]

Originally Posted by JKTrevecca

haha... thanks tk. do you think using the 50 pound on priest to fish for hybrids would have any adverse impacts? i'd hate to have to change line on all my rods when switching fishing spots.

I use the same rods for Priest as I do on OH with 50lb Big Game to a barrel swivel then 30lb fluoro to the bait. They don't seem to mind it a bit...

[MNfisher]

Originally Posted by StriperFan

I witnessed another fisherman on here have a big fish break off 65# braid because he was set to zero drag, but if he wasn't he would have lost the fish to a log jam anyway. Might have even been 80# braid.

It was 80#. I've never had a fish pull like that one did! Still haunts me!


Mike

[StriperFan]

Originally Posted by MNfisher

It was 80#. I've never had a fish pull like that one did! Still haunts me!


Mike

Heck I know, It still haunts me having seen it.

[agelesssone]

MN Fisher and Striperfan,

I just had a very unsettling experience in my garage this morning.

Opened a new pack of H2O Express 80 lb braid and spooled up a new rod and reel setup.

I cut off three feet of the line and wanted to test a snap swivel to see how much weight it would take to open up the snap swivel.

I tied a palomar knot to the snap swivel, wrapped the other end of the line around a wooden stick. Attached the snap swivel to a piece of 250 lb. planer board line which was tied to a 37.5 dumbell which had a 15 lb dumbell attached to it for a combined total of 52.5 lbs.

Doing a straight up slow lift, I didn't get the weights off the floor either time I tried. None of the knots gave way or broke, the snap swivel didn't open. The line broke both times between the two attachments. Not at the knots, but between the two points of attachment.

So what am I doing wrong? The line snapped before I got 52.5 lbs off the floor.

I have a 1500 ft spool of Power Pro 80 lb test line coming in the mail. Sure hope it tests out better than the H2O Express stuff did.

[SAMBOLIE]

Originally Posted by agelesssone

Doing a straight up slow lift, I didn't get the weights off the floor either time I tried. None of the knots gave way or broke, the snap swivel didn't open. The line broke both times between the two attachments. Not at the knots, but between the two points of attachment.

So what am I doing wrong? The line snapped before I got 52.5 lbs off the floor.

I have a 1500 ft spool of Power Pro 80 lb test line coming in the mail. Sure hope it tests out better than the H2O Express stuff did.

Merv, have you ever tried tying the line to a digital scale that is secured to something then pulling on the line to see what the weight is when the line breaks?

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by agelesssone

MN Fisher and Striperfan,

I just had a very unsettling experience in my garage this morning.

Opened a new pack of H2O Express 80 lb braid and spooled up a new rod and reel setup.

I cut off three feet of the line and wanted to test a snap swivel to see how much weight it would take to open up the snap swivel.

I tied a palomar knot to the snap swivel, wrapped the other end of the line around a wooden stick. Attached the snap swivel to a piece of 250 lb. planer board line which was tied to a 37.5 dumbell which had a 15 lb dumbell attached to it for a combined total of 52.5 lbs.

Doing a straight up slow lift, I didn't get the weights off the floor either time I tried. None of the knots gave way or broke, the snap swivel didn't open. The line broke both times between the two attachments. Not at the knots, but between the two points of attachment.

So what am I doing wrong? The line snapped before I got 52.5 lbs off the floor.

I have a 1500 ft spool of Power Pro 80 lb test line coming in the mail. Sure hope it tests out better than the H2O Express stuff did.

Merv, I am not sure that is a good test ... There is a lot of difference and dynamics in comparison with dead weight and active live weight ...

Example" I have a winch on my Jeep. The vertical weight it can lift is **1800# dead weight .. It is rated @ 5500# rolling weight (vehicle pull). I found when experimenting with Braids 20 years ago that I was breaking my line ... I went back to Mono that has a stretch coefficient ... no more breakage. Have you noticed on the Tuna Fishing show they only use mono do to the stretch, now they do break off usually near the terminal tackle.. <'TK><

(**rating for cable and drive line of winch)

[SAMBOLIE]

Originally Posted by tkwalker

Merv, I am not sure that is a good test ... There is a lot of difference and dynamics in comparison with dead weight and active live weight ...

Example" I have a winch on my Jeep. The vertical weight it can lift is **1800# dead weight .. It is rated @ 5500# rolling weight (vehicle pull). I found when experimenting with Braids 20 years ago that I was breaking my line ... I went back to Mono that has a stretch coefficient ... no more breakage. Have you noticed on the Tuna Fishing show they only use mono do to the stretch, now they do break off usually near the terminal tackle.. <'TK><

(**rating for cable and drive line of winch)

What if it is rolling like a freaking locomotive in a direction opposite from what you want to pull?

[XxthejuicexX]

merv, I have broke 65lb power pro on the hookset while flipping docks on G-ville. 12-15' of line out and on my hookset snapped it, twice I think. Now that's with the drag locked down and no give. It's a lot of pressure on that line so I know back it off so I have some give with the drag, no issues since.

[agelesssone]

I need to go online and see what the criteria is for testing line.
I think if it says 80 lb, it shouldn't break until 80 lbs straight pull is applied.

[tkwalker]

Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE

What if it is rolling like a freaking locomotive in a direction opposite from what you want to pull?

What this means is that the load is static. dead in the water, stuck, etc...(Merv, I may need some help here?? .. It is capable of pulling this weight that rolls toward the Winch .... <'TK>< LOL ..