Well, thanks for the info guys... Jimmy I did not need to know about your marketing strategy..... headhunter i figured you caught 80 fish, three at a time on a crank bait...... you let me down with your report. I never made it out. By the time we left this morning and fought traffic to get home it was after 6 instead of 4. Apparently half of the state of Illinois thinks it's a good idea to do road work on the interstate during the day, 1 lane Interstates.. love em. Hit traffic is Nashville and got pissed off for greatness, no way I could ever make that drive everyday for work. I'm going to try and get out tomorrow after work to get some green fish. By the way Jimmy I stopped at a rest stop in clarksville and did not see your number on the wall, might want to broaden you marketing area.