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Schleprock 01-25-2019 05:34 PM

Chickamauga Giant 1-19-19
 
Put in at Dayton last Saturday in a monsoon, caught a few fish but found out this guy caught this 14.2 out of Dayton also same day, Chick is producing outstanding numbers of big bass, heard that was at least the 8th 10+ within the past year

Why not me? lol


https://i.imgur.com/YzrthlD.jpg

TerryD 01-26-2019 03:03 PM

What a tank! That's a fish of a million casts...keep at it. Lots of time on the water and tons of luck required to catch ONE of that caliber.....in a lifetime.
Congrats to him!

Texas_Rig 01-26-2019 07:25 PM

Goodness what a bass. I can't even imagine! Did the guy say what he caught it on? I'd bet a giod amount that it was on 1 of 3 lures. Alabama rig, jig, or a swimbait. And Alabama rig is the best guess I'd say.

Texas_Rig 01-26-2019 07:26 PM

I wish they would put that Florida strain bass in at least one lake here in middle Tn.

bfish 01-26-2019 07:28 PM

Rattle-L-Trap

https://newschannel9.com/sports/outd...-14-pound-bass

Alphahawk 01-26-2019 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas_Rig (Post 84765)
I wish they would put that Florida strain bass in at least one lake here in middle Tn.

Blue Cat, Shell Cracker, and Goldeneye all 3 have them at The Williamsport Lakes outside of Columbia. My late friend caught 6 of these back in 2015.....one a day for 6 days. I think the smallest was 9 pounds. This one was caught using 2# test SOS line and he caught all of them off the bank. They have shocked them up there as big as 14 pounds...I think maybe even more. If I’m not mistaken The Williamsport Lakes were the first lakes in TN to get Florida strain.

Regards

Schleprock 01-26-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas_Rig (Post 84765)
I wish they would put that Florida strain bass in at least one lake here in middle Tn.

They put some in Nickajack this year if that's closer , heard it took 15 years before they started seeing the DNA in Chick so it could be a while


We went back today and I didn't get a bite, first time I got skunked at Chickamauga :(

And someone caught a 12 pounder today, didn't say what he caught it on , not sure how accurate but he claims there have been 10 double digit bass caught since Jan 1st

https://i.imgur.com/LVOyeoi.jpg

Alphahawk 01-26-2019 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Schleprock (Post 84769)
They put some in Nickajack this year if that's closer , heard it took 15 years before they started seeing the DNA in Chick so it could be a while


We went back today and I didn't get a bite, first time I got skunked at Chickamauga :(

And someone caught a 12 pounder today

Nickajack was first stocked with them in 2015.

Regards

Texas_Rig 01-26-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk (Post 84768)
Blue Cat, Shell Cracker, and Goldeneye all 3 have them at The Williamsport Lakes outside of Columbia. My late friend caught 6 of these back in 2015.....one a day for 6 days. I think the smallest was 9 pounds. This one was caught using 2# test SOS line and he caught all of them off the bank. They have shocked them up there as big as 14 pounds...I think maybe even more. If I’m not mistaken The Williamsport Lakes were the first lakes in TN to get Florida strain.

Regards

Thank you sir! I need to make my way there. I've heard you talk about those lakes before. It just seems to fade away in my mind.

Schleprock 01-26-2019 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk (Post 84770)
Nickajack was first stocked with them in 2015.

Regards


Oh ok, saw where TWRA was stocking them last season , I thought it was a new program , not sure why but some people are against stocking that strain, a TWRA officer that lives by me said it was unfortunate that they were stocking them in Watts Bar but didn't go into detail

luckystratos 01-27-2019 02:51 PM

Those fish are monsters. From what I hear they won’t stock priest or old hickory with Florida strain in they won’t survive our cold water. I call bs. If that’s case why are these 12 and 14 lb fish not belly up instead of hitting someone’s lure. I know that water is cold down there with these temperatures and high water flow. That’s my case and I’m sticking to it.

Halli 01-27-2019 04:42 PM

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220,000 were stocked a few years back in Ky lake and more to come.

bfish 01-27-2019 05:28 PM

I don't know the complete history of FL strain in Chickamauga but do have some intel.

As the largemouth fishery on Chick was crashing in the mid '80's, due to increases in flow (although many mistakenly blame TVA spraying milfoil). A study by a PhD theorized that FL strain would survive (not necessary thrive) below a diagonal line from just north of Birmingham and Chattanooga but well south of Knoxville.

From my understand, Anders Myhr (RIP, then Region III chief), presented the idea to a local bass club to sponsor stocking of the FL strain to boost the population. Genetics were not a concern back then. I believe it was 300-500 fingerlings shipped from FL per year for the first several years.

Later on TN was able to overwinter FL brood fish and the stocking rates increased, however managers were not seeing any results. So around 2000 Kevin Hoffman performed some work and published his findings in 2002. Yes the FL stocking genes were moving into the general populations, but were still mostly confined to the original stocking embayments. Since then, with continual stocking and natural wandering, the genes have spread and you see some F1 hybrids being caught.

Now here comes the rub…..
F1 hybrids will eventually spawn with other F1, and you start to loose the hybrid vigor the F1 shows. FL strain have a less tolerant range of spawning temperatures than native and are less fecund (i.e. produce fewer eggs) than native. This can lead to missing years of spawning. Also F2 will not have the same growth rates as the pure and F1. Over time the population average size will decrease. Even if the entire lake was all F1 (with no native), the population numbers would be lessen, as pure FL and F1 hybrids don't support as dense populations as native. The further away you go from natural habitat of the FL strain the more pronounced negatives become.

Texas_Rig 01-27-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bfish (Post 84782)
I don't know the complete history of FL strain in Chickamauga but do have some intel.

As the largemouth fishery on Chick was crashing in the mid '80's, due to increases in flow (although many mistakenly blame TVA spraying milfoil). A study by a PhD theorized that FL strain would survive (not necessary thrive) below a diagonal line from just north of Birmingham and Chattanooga but well south of Knoxville.

From my understand, Anders Myhr (RIP, then Region III chief), presented the idea to a local bass club to sponsor stocking of the FL strain to boost the population. Genetics were not a concern back then. I believe it was 300-500 fingerlings shipped from FL per year for the first several years.

Later on TN was able to overwinter FL brood fish and the stocking rates increased, however managers were not seeing any results. So around 2000 Kevin Hoffman performed some work and published his findings in 2002. Yes the FL stocking genes were moving into the general populations, but were still mostly confined to the original stocking embayments. Since then, with continual stocking and natural wandering, the genes have spread and you see some F1 hybrids being caught.

Now here comes the rub…..
F1 hybrids will eventually spawn with other F1, and you start to loose the hybrid vigor the F1 shows. FL strain have a less tolerant range of spawning temperatures than native and are less fecund (i.e. produce fewer eggs) than native. This can lead to missing years of spawning. Also F2 will not have the same growth rates as the pure and F1. Over time the population average size will decrease. Even if the entire lake was all F1 (with no native), the population numbers would be lessen, as pure FL and F1 hybrids don't support as dense populations as native. The further away you go from natural habitat of the FL strain the more pronounced negatives become.

Thanks for the information.

Texas_Rig 01-27-2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bfish (Post 84766)

I stand corrected.

Schleprock 01-30-2019 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bfish (Post 84782)
I don't know the complete history of FL strain in Chickamauga but do have some intel.

As the largemouth fishery on Chick was crashing in the mid '80's, due to increases in flow (although many mistakenly blame TVA spraying milfoil). A study by a PhD theorized that FL strain would survive (not necessary thrive) below a diagonal line from just north of Birmingham and Chattanooga but well south of Knoxville.

From my understand, Anders Myhr (RIP, then Region III chief), presented the idea to a local bass club to sponsor stocking of the FL strain to boost the population. Genetics were not a concern back then. I believe it was 300-500 fingerlings shipped from FL per year for the first several years.

Later on TN was able to overwinter FL brood fish and the stocking rates increased, however managers were not seeing any results. So around 2000 Kevin Hoffman performed some work and published his findings in 2002. Yes the FL stocking genes were moving into the general populations, but were still mostly confined to the original stocking embayments. Since then, with continual stocking and natural wandering, the genes have spread and you see some F1 hybrids being caught.

Now here comes the rub…..
F1 hybrids will eventually spawn with other F1, and you start to loose the hybrid vigor the F1 shows. FL strain have a less tolerant range of spawning temperatures than native and are less fecund (i.e. produce fewer eggs) than native. This can lead to missing years of spawning. Also F2 will not have the same growth rates as the pure and F1. Over time the population average size will decrease. Even if the entire lake was all F1 (with no native), the population numbers would be lessen, as pure FL and F1 hybrids don't support as dense populations as native. The further away you go from natural habitat of the FL strain the more pronounced negatives become.


Very interesting, Thank you

willbefreeway 02-01-2019 01:48 AM

It is a proof of TWRA's discrimination !!
 
So. TWRA stocked everywhere in Tennessee with Florida Large Mouth Bass in vast amount except Middle TN. We can barely find a 5 lbs bass on J. Percy Priest Lake and Old Hickory Lake nowadays. Places like Chickamauga and Kentucky are already filled with big Large Mouth Bass in large amount got filled more with them every year. Places are so scant in both quantity and quality of bass like Middle TN got ignored !!! Which have more fishing pressures and fishermen ? Middle TN or other places ? TWRA is a joke !! Please put more Bass into J. Percy Priest and Old Hickory Lakes!!! Be fair !!

XxthejuicexX 02-01-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by willbefreeway (Post 84805)
So. TWRA stocked everywhere in Tennessee with Florida Large Mouth Bass in vast amount except Middle TN. We can barely find a 5 lbs bass on J. Percy Priest Lake and Old Hickory Lake nowadays. Places like Chickamauga and Kentucky are already filled with big Large Mouth Bass in large amount got filled more with them every year. Places are so scant in both quantity and quality of bass like Middle TN got ignored !!! Which have more fishing pressures and fishermen ? Middle TN or other places ? TWRA is a joke !! Please put more Bass into J. Percy Priest and Old Hickory Lakes!!! Be fair !!




JPP is loaded with Bass. Tournaments are producing heavier and heavier sacks every year. There was a time that 15 pounds would guarantee you a check now you may not even place. I don't know your fishing style but offshore if becoming the way to catch bigger and more fish.

willbefreeway 02-02-2019 02:14 AM

JPP is loaded with Shads
 
I truly believe JPP is loaded with shads, Gars, and Carps. We have too much food that Bass can eat and not enough Bass to eat them. We should have another 500 K to 1 mil more Bass to eat those Shads and better for fishermen. TWRA not doing their job. May have to stock the lake myself. You can go to CA Delta or Clear Lake and have 100 Bass in 6 hours VS maybe 10 Bass in 8 hours on JPP. That is sad.

thehick176 02-02-2019 12:59 PM

Slow down buddy. I wouldn't blame the lake or TWRA. Priest constantly produces big bags in tournaments. For the pressure that lake gets, it's actually pretty amazing.
Put some time in and find some good offshore spots. They are not always on the bank. That goes for Old Hickory as well.

notorious 02-02-2019 03:53 PM

JPP is one of the most prolific lakes in Middle Tennessee. My two largest Bass came from there, 7.5 SM and 9. LM, lost two larger than those in both categories. Numerous 50+ buck bass days and more crappie than I can possibly count.

TroutFiend 02-02-2019 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 84814)
JPP is one of the most prolific lakes in Middle Tennessee. My two largest Bass came from there, 7.5 SM and 9. LM, lost two larger than those in both categories. Numerous 50+ buck bass days and more crappie than I can possibly count.



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tkwalker 02-03-2019 01:42 PM

I agree with Notorious <'TK><
 
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JPP is one of the most prolific lakes in Middle Tennessee. My two largest Bass came from there, 7.5 SM and 9. LM, lost two larger than those in both categories. Numerous 50+ buck bass days and more crappie than I can possibly count.

I first starting fishing Percy Priest in the early 70's, a few years after the Dam project was finished in 1968... Like any new reservoir when the impoundment is up in the foliage, grass, etc. Fishing was fantastic! Then as the lake gained popularity fishing pressure increased and at times it seemed, at least for me, That there were no fish to be found...

But do to the efforts of TWRA the fishing got better in reference to size, and species. Now this is not to say that the daily skunk factor is not still there like any other day on any fishery , Weather, time of year, water conditions, temp, etc... Plays an enormous role on whether you will catch old scaly face.

Another aspect of this equation is you have to remember that JPP is surrounded by three Counties, Davidson, Rutherford, and Wilson which gives it plenty of fishing pressure. Even with this said Priest is still very prolific ...

Here are a few pic's of my last outing with my wife with some of the fish we caught. We were primarily trolling for crappie. A week earlier in the same location was a skunk day LOL ! <'TK><:)

willbefreeway 02-17-2019 07:56 AM

I will do TWRA job for them. That is sad.
 
So, as I said, TWRA not stocking JPP with Bass anymore for years. There is barely any trip I come out and have more than 20 bass in 4 hours. That is sad. I has fished Lake Fork, Callifornia Delta, Clear Lake, Lanier, Hartwell, and other lake in other states and never went home with less than 50 bass in 4 hours. So, as I said, I will make sure we have more bass in JPP. I will start growing Florida Bass on JPP this year. Hopefully in 5 years, we will be able to catch more than 100 bass in a 4 hours trip. I will happen and you are welcomed !!


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Originally Posted by thehick176 (Post 84811)
Slow down buddy. I wouldn't blame the lake or TWRA. Priest constantly produces big bags in tournaments. For the pressure that lake gets, it's actually pretty amazing.
Put some time in and find some good offshore spots. They are not always on the bank. That goes for Old Hickory as well.


TroutFiend 02-17-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by willbefreeway (Post 84954)
So, as I said, TWRA not stocking JPP with Bass anymore for years. There is barely any trip I come out and have more than 20 bass in 4 hours. That is sad. I has fished Lake Fork, Callifornia Delta, Clear Lake, Lanier, Hartwell, and other lake in other states and never went home with less than 50 bass in 4 hours. So, as I said, I will make sure we have more bass in JPP. I will start growing Florida Bass on JPP this year. Hopefully in 5 years, we will be able to catch more than 100 bass in a 4 hours trip. I will happen and you are welcomed !!



Let me know how that works out for you.
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TerryD 02-17-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by willbefreeway (Post 84954)
So, as I said, TWRA not stocking JPP with Bass anymore for years. There is barely any trip I come out and have more than 20 bass in 4 hours. That is sad. I has fished Lake Fork, Callifornia Delta, Clear Lake, Lanier, Hartwell, and other lake in other states and never went home with less than 50 bass in 4 hours. So, as I said, I will make sure we have more bass in JPP. I will start growing Florida Bass on JPP this year. Hopefully in 5 years, we will be able to catch more than 100 bass in a 4 hours trip. I will happen and you are welcomed !!

You might want to read up on Tennessee fishing rules and regulations before you start stocking our public waters. Could save you some coin...

XxthejuicexX 02-17-2019 04:01 PM

Took 21 pounds to win last Wednesday's tournament on JPP. JPP produces very well for how heavily fished it is.

notorious 02-17-2019 05:39 PM

willbefeeway,

It is illegal to do as you mentioned, maybe you should go back to California...seems that partaking in illegal activities is the norm there and you would be happier. Don't be surprised if TWRA shows up at your doorstep...you have displayed probable cause, hey and you're welcome also.

Flatline 02-17-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by willbefreeway (Post 84954)
So, as I said, TWRA not stocking JPP with Bass anymore for years. There is barely any trip I come out and have more than 20 bass in 4 hours. That is sad. I has fished Lake Fork, Callifornia Delta, Clear Lake, Lanier, Hartwell, and other lake in other states and never went home with less than 50 bass in 4 hours. So, as I said, I will make sure we have more bass in JPP. I will start growing Florida Bass on JPP this year. Hopefully in 5 years, we will be able to catch more than 100 bass in a 4 hours trip. I will happen and you are welcomed !!


Read what you just said... You remove 20+ bass from the lake everytime you go. Now imagine if even a fraction of the people do the same thing. How long before the lake is void of any type of fish ? You complainthat TRWA doesn't stock enough fish yet you don't practice remove more than your fair share. How is any lake going to be able to support that kind of pressure ?


To be honest I hear everyone fishes JPP and OH all the time.. I don't know how those lakes can withstand that kind of pressure and its getting worse every year. :(

bfish 02-18-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Flatline (Post 84959)
...How long before the lake is void of any type of fish ? ...

At a ultra conservative 50 adult bass per acre, and Priest is over 14,000 acres, with someone taking home 20 per trip. It would take over 35,000 trips within one year.


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