I went to one and felt awkward as hell.


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At least you know about fishing and conservation. There are some things money can't buy. Common sense is high on the list.

Awkward as hell has got to be an understatement! I would love to have seen that! Ha!

There's a huge difference between conservationists and environmentalists...

I'm all for conserving all that's natural. Not to the point that people shouldn't have access to a man made pond tho.

Radnor lake was made by a railroad that needed water for their steam locomotives, and not for a bunch of hand wringing libs to act as if it was made by the hand of God that had to be protected from ill willed fishermen.


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very true. I've lost access to many striper spots on my home waters because fisherman littered with trash, were loud at off hours and made a general nuisance of themselves and people got sick of it and shut us all out.

for every fisherman who bring s out what he carries in or even picks up after others there are 10 fisherman leaving bait boxes and beer cans and piles of mono behind.

I was on one local well known creek sunday. it looks like some one decorated it for christmas with all the different color trot lines left hanging off every branch by the scumbag catfish brigade. they are so lazy they can't reach up and cut off the whole line, leaving an eyesore and line all over for other fisherman to get tangled in. at least the general public doesn't go there.

I could see maybe making it accessable to canoes and kayaks only and all catch & release since it's a wildlife management area. Really to properly manage that lake there should be a slot size of bass allowed to be harvested but you can't expect tree huggers and hardcore conservationists to apply laws of science to things.

This place is like 10 minutes from where I live and I'd love to kayak fish in peace and have access to that good of fishing. I agree that making it completely off limits is beyond ridiculous.

Unfortunately if fishing was allowed, it wouldn't be such a peaceful place to fish. Shore fisherman all over. Canoes and kayaks all over.


Mike

To quote a famous politician. What difference does it make?:):)

Lots of deer in the area also. Should be open to hunters and to hell with peacefullness.

Yea speaking of idiot liberals..

I'd love to see the looks on the faces of these people if they saw me dragging a deer out of there haha. It would be worth the fine.

I've gone there a few times with my wife and kids, especially when my kids were very young.

Radnor is appealing for what it is, a quiet, natural place in the midst of an urban/suburban surrounding, and those places are needed.

There's places for hunters to take a deer, but it's also nice for kids to have places to go see one, and for old folks to take a quiet, safe walk in nature.

And lets be honest, fishermen would ruin the place. I've been involved in different kinds of outdoor pursuits, as have most of you all, and BY FAR, fishermen are the worst littering, lazy, disrespectful to the environment subgroup of them all.

Radnor has a wilderness area classification that mandates it be maintained similar to a National Park. It's primary function is to be as native and natural as possible. Other places are designated to have more and heavier human usage.

Seems like we can have both kinds of wilderness places...

Billy

I've seen quite a few bluebills on radnor and I'd love to hunt them!

Bluebills, jacks, redheads, canvasbacks, buffleheads. You go there in January. I bet highest population of ducks in middle TN! It's quite the sight at times, 1000's of birds.


Mike

Then it would be similar to Bedford Lake, Williamsport Lakes, etc. I don't think it would just get covered up with fishermen. TWRA should manage it and it would be a great fishing lake. The small TWRA managed lakes are plenty peaceful despite plenty of bank fishermen and canoe/kayak anglers.

Now, duck hunting may be pushing it :D

Dude I'm not even allowed to bring my dog on the hiking trails. Come on, that's a bit extreme...

Dogs dig and could destroy plants.

While walking through Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, a man came upon another man hugging a tree with his ear firmly against the tree. Seeing this he inquired, "Just out of curiosity, what the hell are you doing?"

"I'm listening to the music of the tree," the other man replied.

"You've gotta be kiddin' me."

"No, would you like to give it a try?"

Understandably curious, the man says, "Well, OK..." So he wrapped his arms around the tree and pressed his ear up against it. With this, the other guy slapped a pair of handcuffs on him, took his wallet, jewelry, car keys, and then stripped him naked and left.

Two hours later another nature lover strolled by, saw this guy handcuffed to the tree stark naked, and asked, "What the hell happened to you?"

He told the guy the whole terrible story about how he got there. When he finished telling his story, the other guy shook his head in sympathy, walked around behind him, kissed him gently behind the ear and said:

"This just ain't gonna be your day, darling"!

Not to stir the pot, as i know and agree with what your saying to a degree, however, there is a distinction between Fisherman and people who buy a blue plastic tub of worms and walmart bags of beer and walk thru the woods to find the water, who i refer to as people who fish. There is a huge difference between the two. People who fish are the reason the boat ramp at the end of Old Hickory Blvd in Hermitage is closed....not fisherman. For the most part, and there are exceptions as with anything else, Fisherman are pretty good about not leaving a mess, its the groups of folks that go down to the dams and park setting areas on a nice day that trash places, but again....there are exceptions to it.
So yes, i understand what your saying, and i agree but to an extent, but it cant all be tossed into one "bad" category.

The distinction you make is very valid. I know what you're talking about and you know what I'm talking about.

To everyone else, we are all one group though, so we need to educate "people who fish", and the "fishermen" need to pull a little extra weight sometimes caring for spaces abused by others.

We take trash bags everywhere we go, and my boys are taught to pick up after others/leave it better for the next people.

Billy

That would be horrible!!!

Watch out for those damn squirrels too! I hear the dig and bury nuts to eat at a later time, thus killing the new tree growth.

And they love digging at the roots of my hostas and pillaging my garden, which is why I got myself a Daisy 880 air rifle :)

You sir are not welcome to lake Radnor park!

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I grew up not too many miles from Radnor and I remember when some people could fish there (it was private property back then). I knew of many people that fished it without permission, but that was no big deal back in the 70's. There were some awesome fish in it. I would suspect that these days, the fish are stunted after 20+ years of no fishing, I don't know. It is what it is now, a State Park. I always thought that it would be a great way to raise some money by having a lottery to fish it, but it's really probably not worth fishing anymore, unless TWRA has kept it balanced somehow. It's really a suburban nature walking area now pretty much. No, I can't imagine opening it to fishing. AS above comments have said, fishermen leave trash, etc. Very sad. And dogs not allowed?.. I don't think that's extreme. Everybody and their brother has dogs now and think they have to take them on field trips every day and the place would be covered in dogsh..t from day one.

People are supposed to be responsible and clean up their dog's poop. I always do and few things piss me off as much as people in my neighborhood who don't. Next time I see someone letting it happen I'm going to walk up to them with a doggie poop bag and ask if they were just out and needed one.

The party shouldn't be ruined for everyone because of some. Same with the fishermen vs people who fish argument. It sure would be nice to get access to that lake, man powered vessels only like other small TWRA managed lakes.

Party pooper. :)

One thing I will say to kinda take up for the rangers at the park and the manager is that Radnor is under the most political pressure of any park in the state. The rangers there are forced to be that strict and all of those rules are made by the folks with money, not the park and they have no choice but to enforce them. It is pretty hard for a ranger or park manager to be fired but but their are so many people with political ties and heck even Haslam's wife is know to hike the trails there occasionally that it would only take the right person to complain for one of them to be looking for another job. I would personally never work there just for that reason.

I have a friend who does turtle studies in the lake and catches quite a few fish in his traps. He said every one of the bass are 10-14 inches but the bluegill are quite impressive. I had heard the same thing from a friend who used to sneak in at night (pre night vision equipment, yes they do use it) but he did say it was literally a fish every cast. Used to be a big challenge for the baseball team at a near by university to go over and fish and try not to get caught.

Am I the only one thinking the next FishingTN gathering should be in the middle of the night at Radnor Lake and there should be a fishing tournament involved?

Great idea. Why don't you pre-fish the lake and give us a report?

ALL diving ducks.

Nothing in the bunch fit to eat.