New State Record Bass?

[Fish Whisperer]

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[Alphahawk]

Looks like....but when TWRA gets through with DNA and it has some of that Florida strain there will be 2 different records........just Like the regular spotted record and one for Alabama spotted record. Congrats to the man that got it.

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[XxthejuicexX]

I saw that on twitter. What a pig. I did not know they did records for both strains. I would be happy with something 1/2 that size when I go.

[Travis C.]

I saw that on twitter. What a pig. I did not know they did records for both strains. I would be happy with something 1/2 that size when I go.

That fish is probably 26-27", I am sure you can catch one or two 13-13.5" :D

[XxthejuicexX]

That fish is probably 26-27", I am sure you can catch one or two 13-13.5" :D


I got that, I wont let you down!

[creekcrappie]

Dang that's a giant. I am super pumped to go over there in March now!

[FloatNFish]

Tennessee rig + TheraBand for shoulder rehab = 15lb Largemouth.

[riverhawkluke]

That fish was caught on a Dixie Custom's Viper rig, a great new A-rig that they came out with recently. Picked up a lot at the show, and I am pumped to use them on Chick. A true monster, I am sure there are many giants lurking in Chickamauga.

Luke

[XxthejuicexX]

Tennessee rig + TheraBand for shoulder rehab = 15lb Largemouth.

Or a Sh#t load of Aleve! That's what I do. Shoulder hurts about halfway through the season, take 4 Aleve in the morning.... liver hurts by lunch....... Wait, Maybe it's the bourbon.

[tennarl]

Guide friend of mine said multiple 10+ and a rumored 14 were caught on Guntersville last two weeks. I'm not skilled or motivated enough to be out in mid-Feb chucking around an A-rig with no side scan and a boat that can't handle wind beyond 10 mph. Guess I'll wait for 70 degree Sunday's in March on Percy Priest were my best five go for 13.5. :D

[XxthejuicexX]

Guide friend of mine said multiple 10+ and a rumored 14 were caught on Guntersville last two weeks. I'm not skilled or motivated enough to be out in mid-Feb chucking around an A-rig with no side scan and a boat that can't handle wind beyond 10 mph. Guess I'll wait for 70 degree Sunday's in March on Percy Priest were my best five go for 13.5. :D

Two 10lb bass were caught during the RatLtrap tournament. I don't know if it was that tournament or another but it took 36 pounds to win it I think

[Adrian]

I watched his interview. He said he was using the Dixie Custom Alabama rig. I have the same exact one, and it has 5 Wires & 5 Blades. Isn't that a No No in TN?

[FloatNFish]

I watched his interview. He said he was using the Dixie Custom Alabama rig. I have the same exact one, and it has 5 Wires. Isn't that a No No in TN?

You can have as many wires as you want just three baits that terminate in a hook. Infinite teasers kicker is just three hooks.

Alex

[XxthejuicexX]

You can have as many wires as you want just three baits that terminate in a hook. Infinite teasers kicker is just three hooks.

Alex

Yep, I threw a flash mob with 5 swim baits last weekend, only 3 had hooks. It's still a lot to toss out of a kayak.

[Adrian]

Is This Video Incorrect? It says at 2:43 that 3 hooks and 2 dummies is not acceptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWi4Gt-6Fo

[Alphahawk]

Is This Video Incorrect? It says at 2:43 that 3 hooks and 2 dummies is not acceptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWi4Gt-6Fo

You are correct. I have stayed out of this discussion as I don't use those rigs....kind of hard to throw those with 2# test...LOL. But it doesn't mean I haven't kept up with regs. I saw that video when it was first released. It was supposed to clarify the state ruling as there were a lot of people who misunderstood it. Well it seems that many still misunderstand the ruling...to include TWRA. There are going to be many who will bring up that video and ask if regs were broken to catch that fish. I don't have an answer to that but you can bet that many will ask that same question. I'm happy the guy caught the fish and hopefully TWRA will once and for all say what is legal and illegal in those rigs.


Regards

[Headhunter]

It is legal to have 5 hooks ONLY if those hooks are really small. I believe a size 8 is the largest any of the 5 hooks can be, i.e. a sabiki rig (spelling?)

If any of the hooks are larger than a size 8, then you can only have 3 hooks, but you can have baits on all 5 of the legs. It has been that way since right after they became popular.

Hopefull that is clear as mud.

[XxthejuicexX]

Is This Video Incorrect? It says at 2:43 that 3 hooks and 2 dummies is not acceptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWi4Gt-6Fo


Would not be the first time I have broke that law. I May or may not fish a 5 bait rig pretty often.

[TNBronzeback]

i thought i had a clear understanding of what was legal....after watching that video, im not so sure now with the mention of the hook size.
i thought you could throw 100 baits, but only 3 could have hooks....apparently that is not true if said hooks are larger than a 6?
what about the crankbaits....hypothetically, i could replace the factory hooks with larger hooks and now i have 18 larger than factory hooks on 3 crankbaits and that is still ok? i would imagine your foul hooking % would skyrocket which is one of the reasons the pro tours banned them isnt it?
this sounds like a mess unless im just missing something. lol....i have been known to do that in the past.

Side Note, did the fish live or die? might be a dumb question considering it could be the new state record.

[Alphahawk]

It is legal to have 5 hooks ONLY if those hooks are really small. I believe a size 8 is the largest any of the 5 hooks can be, i.e. a sabiki rig (spelling?)

If any of the hooks are larger than a size 8, then you can only have 3 hooks, but you can have baits on all 5 of the legs. It has been that way since right after they became popular.

Hopefull that is clear as mud.

Watch the video at the prescribed time and come back and tell me it is clear as mud. When the Chief of TWRA Fisheries says it is illegal what is one supposed to think?


Regards

[jad2t]

That fish is dead and going on the wall, like it should.

I'm confused too now on the rigs. I always thought as long as you only have 3 hooks you're good. I never fish with those anyway so I don't keep up with the rules on them.

I give my friends a hard time and say it's a cheating lure but that's only to mock those who get so riled up about using it. I see nothing wrong with it but someone did bring up a good point on fb about why he is against using it. He mentioned that with multiple blades and hooks a bass is likely to get scratched, snagged, etc. more than once when taking a strike at that setup. Whether you catch and grease or catch and release, a bass with a gash on the skin may not do too well. Just food for thought. You'll never catch crap from me for using that rig. Tight lines!!

[Alphahawk]

i thought i had a clear understanding of what was legal....after watching that video, im not so sure now with the mention of the hook size.
i thought you could throw 100 baits, but only 3 could have hooks....apparently that is not true if said hooks are larger than a 6?
what about the crankbaits....hypothetically, i could replace the factory hooks with larger hooks and now i have 18 larger than factory hooks on 3 crankbaits and that is still ok? i would imagine your foul hooking % would skyrocket which is one of the reasons the pro tours banned them isnt it?
this sounds like a mess unless im just missing something. lol....i have been known to do that in the past.

Side Note, did the fish live or die? might be a dumb question considering it could be the new state record.

According to a statement released by the angler who caught it...says he will mount it.


Regards

[Alphahawk]

That fish is dead and going on the wall, like it should.

I'm confused too now on the rigs. I always thought as long as you only have 3 hooks you're good. I never fish with those anyway so I don't keep up with the rules on them.

I give my friends a hard time and say it's a cheating lure but that's only to mock those who get so riled up about using it. I see nothing wrong with it but someone did bring up a good point on fb about why he is against using it. He mentioned that with multiple blades and hooks a bass is likely to get scratched, snagged, etc. more than once when taking a strike at that setup. Whether you catch and grease or catch and release, a bass with a gash on the skin may not do too well. Just food for thought. You'll never catch crap from me for using that rig. Tight lines!!

You won't catch crap from me using one either but the rules are not clear on it.

Regards

[Adrian]

I don't know if regulations have changed since this video was released, but he clearly say that 5 baits on the legs, hooks or not, is unacceptable.

Have I been breaking the rules the whole time? Are they gonna take my Duckett if they see me?

[TNBronzeback]

That fish is dead and going on the wall, like it should.



thats what i figured, and i dont blame him, i was just wondering from a legal standpoint now with the Rig he used. if it is deemed illegal and he killed the fish, could he possibly get fined more for essentially poaching the fish?
ive got no dog in the fight either way, just curious as to how this might pan out for the guy.
thats my only personal hangup with them things is the damage the fish can and most likely will sustain when hooked and trashes around. some of them big swim bait forged hooks will put a nasty gash in them fish and from then on its just a dead fish swimming....in my own opinion.

[Alphahawk]

I don't know if regulations have changed since this video was released, but he clearly say that 5 baits on the legs, hooks or not, is unacceptable.

Have I been breaking the rules the whole time? Are they gonna take my Duckett if they see me?

Didn't that rig he caught the fish on have only 3 arms? I have never seen one but it shows them on the Dixie Customs Facebook page. If it only has 3 arms it is perfectly legal.


Regards

[Alphahawk]

The 2014 TWRA Fishing Guide shows an legal example of an umbrella rig. It has 3 wires with hooks and 2 wires with attractors....LOL. They need to get that thing worked out.


Regards

[Adrian]

Here is an image of the Exact Dixie Custom Rods Rig.
As you can See, 5 Wires & 4 Blades.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg582/adriandavidpayne/IMG_4656_zpsgvqz9hf4.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/adriandavidpayne/media/IMG_4656_zpsgvqz9hf4.jpg.html)

[Alphahawk]

Here is an image of the Exact Dixie Custom Rods Rig.
As you can See, 5 Wires & 4 Blades.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg582/adriandavidpayne/IMG_4656_zpsgvqz9hf4.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/adriandavidpayne/media/IMG_4656_zpsgvqz9hf4.jpg.html)

I don't know how you guys throw those things. What does it weigh with baits on it?


Regards

[Adrian]

7.5 Rod with 30b Braid. Like a knife through butter!

[XxthejuicexX]

I don't know the weight but you think, 5 1/4 ounce heads, 5 4-5" swim baits plus the rig. I know throwing the flash mob is rough

[XxthejuicexX]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/20/305fddf5c3c990c2cb463a95a9274339.jpg

I throw 65lb braid


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[FloatNFish]

I've gone to a single hooked bait on my trolling rigs. Double hook-ups on a single rig are a blast they bend the rigs up pretty good and are much more likely to break off jigs while thrashing against each other. I don't feel that it has had too much effect on catch rate as 85% of the fish come on the trailing bait anyway. I don't see too much harm in having as many arms with teasers as you want.

[MNfisher]

I was told the rules changed after the video was made and a 5 arm rig with just 3 hooks is perfectly legal


Mike

[agelesssone]

http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/nicestriper_zpsf9196d13.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3Mike is right.

2013 they changed the rules to no limit on blades, teaser baits, etc. The law is three hooks per line and that can be single, double or treble hooks, a treble counting as one hook.

I throw A-Rigs with thirteen willow leaf blades, two teasers and three sassy shad bodies on 1/8 oz 5/0 hooks.

Last time I went out I got to watch a 25 lb rockfish come blasting in from the side and engulf one of the swimbaits. I was retrieving slow and the rig was about 6 inches under the water, 10 feet from my rod tip.

Quite a memorable sight to say the least.

[Transplanted Sportsman]

Mike is right.

2013 they changed the rules to no limit on blades, teaser baits, etc. The law is three hooks per line and that can be single, double or treble hooks, a treble counting as one hook.

I throw A-Rigs with thirteen willow leaf blades, two teasers and three sassy shad bodies on 1/8 oz 5/0 hooks.

Last time I went out I got to watch a 25 lb rockfish come blasting in from the side and engulf one of the swimbaits. I was retrieving slow and the rig was about 6 inches under the water, 10 feet from my rod tip.

Quite a memorable sight to say the least.
Merv, does your A rig has 5 arms?, if not how do u have that many blades on it?

[agelesssone]

http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/A-rig7_zpsc80fa252.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/A-rig7_zpsc80fa252.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/A-rig7_zpsc80fa252.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
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Here are three versions that I use.

I also use some with no spinners, just three arms with baits. I have three bladed, four bladed, seven bladed, eight bladed, 11 bladed, thirteen bladed and lastly, fourteen bladed.

I am in the process of trying them all to see what works best in what situation.

I used the fourteen bladed with two teasers and three baits to catch a 25 lb'er a coupla weeks ago.

Woody gave me three spinner baits with 4 inch willow leaf blades that I put on a four bladed rig. So that will be four small willow leaf blades, three large willow leaf blades and three 1/2 oz jigheads with shad bodies (not pictured here), but I haven't had an opportunity to try them out just yet. I do believe they will be killers for stripers, hybrids and large bass.

[Travis C.]

http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/A-rig7_zpsc80fa252.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/A-rig7_zpsc80fa252.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/agelesssone/media/A-rig7_zpsc80fa252.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
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Here are three versions that I use.

Those look like chandeliers instead of baits Merv. They are addictive fishing with the right combination and gear. I have been bitten by the bug.

[agelesssone]

I have to say this, medium heavy rods don't get it with those rigs. I had to go out and buy heavy action 8 ft rods.

You still can't get a lot of distance, just too much wind resistance.

But, you will get a fish's attention when it hits the water!

I've got some new swimbaits that I'm itchin to try but Sumner county keeps cancelling school because some of the roads in northern Sumner county are still iced in too bad. That keeps me at home watching the little one while Mama sleeps after working the night shift.

It looks like I'll get to go out on Wednesday morning with my new striper partner. We'll be looking for some stripers to catch to win a tournament this coming Saturday.

[Travis C.]

Its hard for me to cast them well while seated in a kayak.

Since you have 8ft rods with assuming a good long handle be sure to use both hands / pivot point while casting. If not wear your arms out possibly tear something Merv. Check out some musky fishermen casting or ask mnfisher because they perfected the "easy on you" way to chuck heavy 3,4,5oz baits.

[XxthejuicexX]

Its hard for me to cast them well while seated in a kayak.

Since you have 8ft rods with assuming a good long handle be sure to use both hands / pivot point while casting. If not wear your arms out possibly tear something Merv. Check out some musky fishermen casting or ask mnfisher because they perfected the "easy on you" way to chuck heavy 3,4,5oz baits.


Throwing them while seated in a yak sucks. I fished the flash mob last time I was out and just got tired of throwing it after 20 cast or so.

[FloatNFish]

It looks like I'll get to go out on Wednesday morning with my new striper partner. We'll be looking for some stripers to catch to win a tournament this coming Saturday.

Priest?

[agelesssone]

Granted, and point taken.

The multi-spinner A-rigs will tire a body out.

This is one reason I have a 1/2 ounce jighead tied on a different rod with a 6 inch fluke. When I get worn out, or at least weary, from throwing the heavy rig, I switch over to this setup. AND, it will catch just as many, if not more, stripers than the heavy A-rigs.

I usually have at least three different rod/reel, line, bait combos set up so I can just lay one down, pick up a different combo and keep on. I usually have one setup with a topwater bait such as a jumpin minnow, or redfin, or zara spook, or slammin Sammy ready in case the stripers start busting on the surface.

And as all the posters on here will agree, some days you catch them and some days you don't. But there is always the thrill of the chase!

I think it would get to be mundane, boring, if they were always there, always biting, always being caught. To me, when pleasure fishing, not guiding a client, it is always a great thrill to feel that sudden stop in the reeling and seeing and hearing that spool spin backwards, not knowing if you'll get the fish to the net, how big it is, or if your setup is strong enough for whatever it is that is taking your line off your reel like it has no intention of stopping.

Once I have tricked the fish into taking my lure, I have had the thrill of "FISHING"...... and, catching, photographing, and releasing it is anticlimatic.

It's the thrill of the hunt, the chase and the eventual battle between man and creature that intrigues me. The submission of the quarry is least of the equation.

My hope is, most of the time, to have a successful release of the vanquished so it may live to fight another day and give another angler the thrill of battle, the satisfaction of a good fight and successful release.

I have kept stripers in the past and will keep stripers in the future. This, I believe, is every fisherman's choice and I begrudge no man the right to keep his legal limit but also implore folks to kill and keep no more than you can use and enjoy.

It's a wonderful fishery we Tennesseans have here and I hope everyone recognizes the great job done by our TWRA agency. They work hard to provide US fantastic fisheries throughout the state, from east to west, from largemouth bass to crappie to striper/hybrids.

TWRA, I salute you and thank you for doing what you do!

And to all my fellow FishingTN.com'ers may your next trip be your best trip!

[agelesssone]

Priest?

Yes Alex, Priest.

We are going to go for bass early in the AM just for grins and giggles and then switch over to the hunt for stripers, moreso than hybrids after the prime time for bass.

We are going to be looking for two big fish for the tournament, rather than for numbers. We are going to try to win that tournament.

Can't know which area we'll be targeting, probably much of the lake as it will be a 10 hour tournament and we'll be using ALL tactics and locations.

Any ideas, hints?

I gotta be secretive since JKTrevecca will be fishing the same tournament against us....SILLY BOY! Thanks for the donation, Jason!

[Travis C.]

Yes Alex, Priest.

We are going to go for bass early in the AM just for grins and giggles and then switch over to the hunt for stripers, moreso than hybrids after the prime time for bass.

We are going to be looking for two big fish for the tournament, rather than for numbers. We are going to try to win that tournament.


With Bill? Good Luck guys...

[MNfisher]

3,4,and 5 oz baits??? Heck, "the pounder" was one of our biggest producers! 16 oz of plastic!


Mike

[agelesssone]

3,4,and 5 oz baits??? Heck, "the pounder" was one of our biggest producers! 16 oz of plastic!


Mike

Some of those muskie lures are ridiculous! But when taken in context with how large a fish the muskie can eat, not so much.