Barrier crossed??

[agelesssone]

I heard a rumor that purportedly a kayaker crossed the barrier today and fished upstream?

Anybody fish there today and can verify or repudiate this rumor?

Possibly a name of the purported villain? Or a photo.

Sure would hate for someone to get the steam plant shut down completely for everybody else.

[chongtoulor86]

I was there all morning this morning til 11am didn't see anybody cross the barrier nor came back from the barrier..
Did you get any info. On what color yak was it. Bc there were pack with people today





I heard a rumor that purportedly a kayaker crossed the barrier today and fished upstream?

Anybody fish there today and can verify or repudiate this rumor?

Possibly a name of the purported villain? Or a photo.

Sure would hate for someone to get the steam plant shut down completely for everybody else.

[agelesssone]

No facts, just had someone tell me that a yak went across the barrier.

I was told it was in the afternoon.

[Travis C.]

Yep its true and same guy as we have discussed on here before about crossing it. I cant remember his name but shouldnt take long for someone to post it. He does it frequently.

[XxthejuicexX]

Was it just for the hell of it or was he crossing again to collect a lure that broke off?


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[Heiny57]

I assume there are some posted rules against that.

[Travis C.]

Was it just for the hell of it or was he crossing again to collect a lure that broke off?


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Hung up, crossed then decided to just fish while up there and caught one.

This is what I was told as well.

[agelesssone]

These actions need to be discouraged.
It could cause the discharge to be declared off limits and a barrier constructed further out, possibly to the extent of the land under TVA's control.
I suggest the next time he does it, EVERYONE at the barrier commence to casting at him and his kayak.
After one round of that, I doubt he'd be tempted to cross again.
Someone needs to "name" him so we can learn a lot more about him.

[XxthejuicexX]

Hung up, crossed then decided to just fish while up there and caught one.

This is what I was told as well.

Hmm, I could see if I broke off a $60-$80 floating swim bait I might go get it too. I guess once you cross you might as well enjoy the spoils. I'm kidding.... don't throw lures at me.

[tkwalker]

Hmm, I could see if I broke off a $60-$80 floating swim bait I might go get it too. I guess once you cross you might as well enjoy the spoils. I'm kidding.... don't throw lures at me.

Now in my old antiquated piscatorial thinking of an $80 bait ... ( I have had brain surgery you Know :eek:) First off ... I couldn't afford it especially loose it in a restricted Fishing area ... Now realistically the bait may go $25/30 ... still expensive!! And I understand the panic to retrieve such bait ... Heck I jumped in 5 feet of alligator infested water in Fla. at night to retrieve a spinner bait that was hung on a stump .. But it had a 9 pound large Mouth pinned to the stump and I caught a 6 pounder later the same night ... attached... (Proof, Mounted and on my wall See below, the 9 # is mounted on the board ) ... So I can understand ...

But, You know you are restricted, why not use a less $$ bait or even live bait rather than risk the privilege for all to fish :o <'TK><

[txnative]

I can confirm. His initials are MC and he went over to retrieve his buddy's Cordell pencil popper (definitely NOT an expensive swimbait). He did move upstream to fish, and caught an 18 and 6 lb striper.

Also, a guy in a drift boat was bragging to everyone that he had gone up to the boils and caught stripers on a fly rod....he quickly found out how everyone felt about it and remained silent after that.


Chris Bryant

[agelesssone]

Now in my old antiquated piscatorial thinking of an $80 bait ... ( I have had brain surgery you Know :eek:) First off ... I couldn't afford it especially loose it in a restricted Fishing area ... Now realistically the bait may go $25/30 ... still expensive!! And I understand the panic to retrieve such bait ... Heck I jumped in 5 feet of alligator infested water in Fla. at night to retrieve a spinner bait that was hung on a stump .. But it had a 9 pound large Mouth pinned to the stump and I caught a 6 pounder later the same night ... attached... (Proof, Mounted and on my wall See below, the 9 # is mounted on the board ) ... So I can understand ...

But, You know you are restricted, why not use a less $$ bait or even live bait rather than risk the privilege for all to fish :o <'TK><
TK, I throw some expensive A-rigs up there too. But the most effective bait is a 1/2 oz jig head with a white pearl fluke, maybe a $2.00 bait.

[jad2t]

My question is how in the world did someone survive the extreme dangers that the barrier is there to protect us from? TWICE!!! He must have an angel watching him at all times!

Anyone else see my point there?

I understand someone going over to get one of those 50 dollar swimbaits and I certainly wouldn't snitch over that. Going over the barrier because someone thinks they have the right to disregard it and fish wherever they please, I would have a problem with. Not because I don't think the barrier is entirely stupid to begin with but because I don't want tighter restrictions on fishing that area as a result of people breaking rules.

[jad2t]

And honestly, if you have an issue with his crossing the barrier, talk to him personally about it rather than going and telling the authority. Doing the latter will likely result in tighter restrictions.

[SAMBOLIE]

And honestly, if you have an issue with his crossing the barrier, talk to him personally about it rather than going and telling the authority. Doing the latter will likely result in tighter restrictions.

That might result in an ass whooping. :D

[jad2t]

That might result in an ass whooping. :D

I think that risk can be run by using somebody's name in a forum and this doesn't need to escalate to that point. We all know the phrase of what happens to snitches don't we? I'd like to see his name removed from this forum. It's not fair to put him on blast like that.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong to cross the barrier and fish for a bit, but going and telling authorities about it will likely result in us not being allowed to fish there. Since we all know who he is now, talk to him personally if you have an issue with it.

[Halli]

My question is how in the world did someone survive the extreme dangers that the barrier is there to protect us from? TWICE!!! He must have an angel watching him at all times!

Anyone else see my point there?



The reason for the barrier is for overhead protection of falling frame work/anything the crane lifts to build the new scrubbers, It is a mandate that TVA reduce Emissions and this is part of process. The contractors can't put up a barrier during the day then remove during non work periods.

As for the guy entering the area unless it has a red tagout or red tape across the area then you will only be asked to leave but of course they do also have on hand there own Federal police force onsite so why push it.

We as local Middle Tennesseans could ask for the barrier to be moved from Point A. closer to the plant at point B. during the winter months rather than at the mouth of the outlet as it would appear to be away from a falling crane's length.
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[XxthejuicexX]

Halli, It never hurts to ask. I think that would make a lot of people very happy.

[agelesssone]

My opinion, as highly regarded as it is, is that the barrier is in a very good place. It is wider there than any further upstream thusly more people are able to access the fishable waters upstream. Move the barrier to point "B" and the area açess is decreased somewhat.
If you disagree with my opinion, please keep your comments to yourself as I am always right!

[XxthejuicexX]

My opinion, as highly regarded as it is, is that the barrier is in a very good place. It is wider there than any further upstream thusly more people are able to access the fishable waters upstream. Move the barrier to point "B" and the area açess is decreased somewhat.
If you disagree with my opinion, please keep your comments to yourself as I am always right!

Wait.... that don't make no sense :confused:

[agelesssone]

Point "B" is narrower than point "A" and everyone will try to belly up to the barrier just as they do now.

I realize there would be more of the channel opened up, but look at the facts now. We have the whole big bay open behind the barrier, yet everyone wants to fish above the barrier. It would be the same if the barrier was moved to point "B".

And let me remind you....I'm always right!

[XxthejuicexX]

Okay, I thought you were just being a smart ass. I would hope that with the additional space to fish not everyone would belly up to the barrier. I know I would rather have the additional space to fish with the barrier moved up. I get tired of sitting up against the barrier throwing at the same water.

[agelesssone]

Myself, I wouldn't belly up to the bar as much as I do now because there are some good underwater breaks and contours further upstream of the barrier placement now. I'd be more worried about the dummies running their big motors up into the channel. Rockfish aren't very noise friendly and will avoid an area with a lot of boat traffic.

[XxthejuicexX]

I would hope people would not drive all the way up into the channel, but it would not surprise me. The last couple times out multiple people have got their panties in a wad over various things, can't imagine the fights that would start with being hauling balls into the channel.

[TNBronzeback]

In my opinion, and we all know the old saying about opinions, but in this particular case, the grass isnt always greener on the other side. I say that hypothetically. If there were only ever 3-4 boats/kayaks that fish there year round....the barrier move would work out good, but with the amount of boats and kayaks that can attempt to be against that barrier, it would just be compounded with more people wanting to relive the glory days of the steamplant pre-barrier along with the regulars that are there as of today. And like mentioned, there would be more people motoring up both fast and slow which would tick off other guys, causing waves and noise.
On paper it sounds and looks appealing no doubt, but i dont think it would benefit the fisherman in the long run if the barrier was moved back. No doubt alot of fish probably hang out way up there all.winter just waiting for the bait to come to them, but as it currently is sits, right at the mouth the fish have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Be there at the right time and the fish will be coming or going...there is no searching for them...they are going to pass thru sooner or later.
Just my 2 cents.

[tkwalker]

In my opinion, and we all know the old saying about opinions, but in this particular case, the grass isnt always greener on the other side. I say that hypothetically. If there were only ever 3-4 boats/kayaks that fish there year round....the barrier move would work out good, but with the amount of boats and kayaks that can attempt to be against that barrier, it would just be compounded with more people wanting to relive the glory days of the steamplant pre-barrier along with the regulars that are there as of today. And like mentioned, there would be more people motoring up both fast and slow which would tick off other guys, causing waves and noise.
On paper it sounds and looks appealing no doubt, but i dont think it would benefit the fisherman in the long run if the barrier was moved back. No doubt alot of fish probably hang out way up there all.winter just waiting for the bait to come to them, but as it currently is sits, right at the mouth the fish have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Be there at the right time and the fish will be coming or going...there is no searching for them...they are going to pass thru sooner or later.
Just my 2 cents.



X 2 .... Basically what Merv was saying ... Now remember folks what you are seeing in the overhead pic ... I saw first Hand from 1972 until 1984 One of my jobs was to calibrate and maintain the telemetry equipment for EPA ... I have 224 trips up those stacks manually before Elevators ... Did I take Binoculars Uummm sometimes and watch the fishing ... Did I learn anything ... somewhat :) <'TK>< :)

[MNfisher]

In my opinion, and we all know the old saying about opinions, but in this particular case, the grass isnt always greener on the other side. I say that hypothetically. If there were only ever 3-4 boats/kayaks that fish there year round....the barrier move would work out good, but with the amount of boats and kayaks that can attempt to be against that barrier, it would just be compounded with more people wanting to relive the glory days of the steamplant pre-barrier along with the regulars that are there as of today. And like mentioned, there would be more people motoring up both fast and slow which would tick off other guys, causing waves and noise.

On paper it sounds and looks appealing no doubt, but i dont think it would benefit the fisherman in the long run if the barrier was moved back. No doubt alot of fish probably hang out way up there all.winter just waiting for the bait to come to them, but as it currently is sits, right at the mouth the fish have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Be there at the right time and the fish will be coming or going...there is no searching for them...they are going to pass thru sooner or later.

Just my 2 cents.


Couldn't agree more. If the barrier was moved up. Then the fish would just move up. The areas where you catch fish now behind the barrier, would for the most part be void of fish due to boats. And yes, the boats would come in that channel on plane. It happened all the time pre barrier.


Mike

[Travis C.]

I think a much better barrier question is not whether it could be moved up but instead will it actually be removed once work is complete.

Personally it has made fishing far better due to people not being able to run up in down the channel wide open or pulling 4 planer boards while others are trying to fish it.

[txnative]

I don't normally agree to restricting access to fishing areas in a way that seems over zealous, but I have grown to love the barrier. To extend my reach, I've been bringing a 10' surf rod to bomb lures out to what were normally out-of-range areas. I've also tailored my gear to maximize casting distance. It's the age-old "adapt & overcome" approach. I'll be fine if the barrier becomes permanent, as I've been successful there. If it is removed, I have found established patterns that will be unaffected...it's all a matter of dealing with change, like so many aspects of fishing. Just my thoughts.


Chris Bryant

[XxthejuicexX]

Chris, I always thought the surf rod idea would be an awesome way of hurling lures into the canal. I think it would be cool to have access to all of it but then I have never been up the canal. It's only my second winter fishing the steam plant


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[txnative]

It's a tad harder in a kayak, even one as stable as the Lure 11.5, but it helps. Fighting a 25+ lb striper is interesting on a rod that long, lot more torque on your arms. I especially enjoy the fact that I'm able to use bigger lures, although 5-6 inches has been the preferred size lately.

Chris Bryant

[agelesssone]

I've only fished the GSP for three years. Txnative caused me to catch my first ever TN striper one night back then.

And for sure, people do come into the channel on plane, chug all the way up to the discharge with their gas motors, park pontoon boats in the middle of the channel in narrow sections of it, pull planer boards off both sides, both up and down stream, drive between you and the shore when you are sitting ten yards off of it.

So, I kinda like the barrier where it is. BUT, in talking to Tony, the guy in charge of the project that created the barrier, the barrier will come down when work is completed in 2016. He won't set a specific date, but I have been told I will be informed of the date so I can be first up the canal.

EAT YOUR HEART OUT BITCHES!!

LMAO! Sorry, guys that last paragraph was a figment of my imagination fueled by Evan Williams Bourbon!

TK, you know what that feels like, right? Except I'm sure it would be scotch fueled, not bourbon!

Have a good night, y'all!

[Alphahawk]

Was up at the Cumberland City Steam Plant today......didn't even catch a yellow belly...go figure. The channel is not blocked...as there is no construction going on there.....but boats are not allowed to go in the channel at all. It is just for bank fisherman. I first fished Gallatin Steam Plant in mid-late 60's. Then it was for boats and bank fisherman. It's a shame they closed GSP to bank fishing. For many years it was the place to be from the bank.


Regards

[tkwalker]

I've only fished the GSP for three years. Txnative caused me to catch my first ever TN striper one night back then.

And for sure, people do come into the channel on plane, chug all the way up to the discharge with their gas motors, park pontoon boats in the middle of the channel in narrow sections of it, pull planer boards off both side, both up and down stream, drive between you and the shore when you are sitting ten yards of of it.

So, i kinda like the barrier where it is. BUT, in talking to Tony, the guy in charge of the project that created the barrier, the barrier will come down when work is completed in 2016. He won't set a specific date, but I have told I will be informed of the date so I can be first up the canal.

EAT YOUR HEART OUT BITCHES!!

LMAO! Sorry, guys that last paragraph was a figment of my imagination fueled by Evan Williams Bourbon!

TK, you know what that feels like, right? Except I'm sure it would be scotch fueled, not bourbon!

Have a good night, y'all!

Merv, Members like you as well as a friend is what keeps me alive and young at Heart ... LOL !! <'TK>< :)

[tkwalker]

Was up at the Cumberland City Steam Plant today......didn't even catch a yellow belly...go figure. The channel is not blocked...as there is no construction going on there.....but boats are not allowed to go in the channel at all. It is just for bank fisherman. I first fished Gallatin Steam Plant in mid-late 60's. Then it was for boats and bank fisherman. It's a shame they closed GSP to bank fishing. For many years it was the place to be from the bank.


Regards

Randy, I have enjoyed a number of days and nights from the banks of GSP ... Caught some nice Stripers ... All of the restrictions started after 911... the usual knee jerk reactions of the Government ... Our Muslim enemy's wants body counts ... not the lose of Mega watts ??? <'TK>< :o

[agelesssone]

I totally agree with the "knee jerk" reaction comment and the body count not megawatts.

The enemy isn't looking to "hurt" us by making us uncomfortable with no air conditioning in the the summer, they want us dead with no blood running through our veins.

And their knee jerk reactions usually wind up costing us more of our freedoms, rights, and money than doing anything to stop the enemy.

[Travis C.]

It's a shame they closed GSP to bank fishing. For many years it was the place to be from the bank.

Regards

It is a shame. We used to go there all the time in the late 80's-90's but people would steal our trailer hitch receivers off the truck and even hub caps on one side. That was always a concern for us.

I could spend hours just a gold hook, float and some moss off the rocks. Goop it on the hook then pitch it out and skipjack would hit that all day long.

Have no idea Alpha about Cumberland City. That place used to be really good. Heard numerous reports of lack luster fishing which in my times up there was the opposite.

[txnative]

I've only fished the GSP for three years. Txnative caused me to catch my first ever TN striper one night back then.


Still got the pic :)

Chris bryant

[agelesssone]

That would be the one!

Thanks Chris, we need to do that again sometime.

[Reel Tune]

That's one sexy fish Merv

[agelesssone]

That's one sexy fish Merv

A SEXY fish?

Guess we know what's on your mind tonight.

Sarah better keep a tight grip on her tightie whities tonight!!

[XxthejuicexX]

A SEXY fish?

Guess we know what's on your mind tonight.

Sarah better keep a tight grip on her tightie whities tonight!!

Hell, Merv you might want to stay away from him next time you see him :D

[agelesssone]

Hell, Merv you might want to stay away from him next time you see him :D

Maybe not stay away, but definitely won't be turning my back to him!

[Reel Tune]

Maybe not stay away, but definitely won't be turning my back to him!

Hell, Merv you might want to stay away from him next time you see him :D

A SEXY fish?

Guess we know what's on your mind tonight.

Sarah better keep a tight grip on her tightie whities tonight!!

As you can tell, I'm water deprived. This has been my longest stint off the water in years. I'm living it through txnative's great videos though