It's that time of year

[Heiny57]

that the weekend warriors screw up the ramps. Can't people learn to make sure their boat starts BEFORE they back into the water? Or load the coolers and crap in the boat while waiting in line to launch, or get out of the way when you are out of the water, or back your trailer in enough to get your boat on without full throttle.

Spent 45 minutes Saturday at Elm Hill trying to get out. I need a new ramp.

Rant off.

[wormdunker]

Nothing has changed in the 30 + years I've been going to Priest. I gave up on Elm Hill on weekends a long time ago. In fact, I don't go out there much at all on weekends in Spring through Fall. Taking your life in your own hands. I guess people are just uneducated about ramp courtesy. Seems like COE or TWRA could make some signs up about it and put them up at ramps. Probably would be a waste of money, though. People just don't seem to care. I put in at Hamilton Creek ramp one day last Spring and someone had actually launched their boat, and left the truck and trailer backed in ON THE RAMP while they were out. I did leave a note on that windshield!

[fleschs]

I have been here for 10 years but back home in illinois I noticed the docks at the ramps were mostly very large on the corp lakes. I think it made single man launching faster. It was not uncommon to see 6 or 8 boats on each side of the dock on a saturday morning. With a stream of fishermen walking back from the parking lot. I have not noticed that here but like I said I'm a new boat owner so my previous experience is based on being the guy parking the trailer:)

[crosshairy]

Nothing has changed in the 30 + years I've been going to Priest. I gave up on Elm Hill on weekends a long time ago. In fact, I don't go out there much at all on weekends in Spring through Fall. Taking your life in your own hands. I guess people are just uneducated about ramp courtesy. Seems like COE or TWRA could make some signs up about it and put them up at ramps. Probably would be a waste of money, though. People just don't seem to care. I put in at Hamilton Creek ramp one day last Spring and someone had actually launched their boat, and left the truck and trailer backed in ON THE RAMP while they were out. I did leave a note on that windshield!

Wow...that one really takes the cake. He's lucky a big wake didn't come along and do damage to the truck...

[XxthejuicexX]

Sunday at Stewarts Creek was like that. First off.... and I may get flamed for this. Guy in a little ( Japanese model, fuel efficient) Car parked on the ramp, took his time unloading his kayak, setting everything up then left the kayak on the ramp while he went and parked. It's plastic he could have moved it to the rocks or gravel bank so someone else could unload a boat. To follow that up the big ski boat, out for the first time ( I heard them talking) without seeing if it would start was backed down........ and then failed to start for long enough that they decided to pull back out of the water and try it in the parking lot. I just can't stand waiting, I get my boat ready before pulling to the ramp to back down to make things smoother for everyone. And for the love of God, don't leave your truck on the ramp while you go out, this happened a month or so ago at fate sanders. If you do this don't be surprised if bad things happen to your vehicle.

[Heiny57]

A rig left at the ramp should be towed, or at least heavily vandalized .

[Fishbus]

I won't flame you for that. I do kayaks, and what's different is that I have to load/unload everything on/off my boats before loading the boats on/off the truck.

However, I only need my truck on the ramp for the actual loading of the boats. Once that's done, I park, get out of people's way and get my boats and gear organized off to the side.

It's just common courtesy. I will also tell people who are waiting for me that I acknowledge them and am trying to hurry up. Goes a long way.

Billy

Sunday at Stewarts Creek was like that. First off.... and I may get flamed for this. Guy in a little ( Japanese model, fuel efficient) Car parked on the ramp, took his time unloading his kayak, setting everything up then left the kayak on the ramp while he went and parked. It's plastic he could have moved it to the rocks or gravel bank so someone else could unload a boat.

[Westwindmike]

Sunday at Stewarts Creek was like that. First off.... and I may get flamed for this. Guy in a little ( Japanese model, fuel efficient) Car parked on the ramp, took his time unloading his kayak, setting everything up then left the kayak on the ramp while he went and parked. It's plastic he could have moved it to the rocks or gravel bank so someone else could unload a boat.
I kayak fish with a friend that does not have a trailer or truck and has to haul his yak on top of his small, Japanese, fuel efficient car. His only option is what you describe. Or, he could park in the lot, rig his yak and hope someone would help him carry it to the ramp(not likely).

And I bet the yak was as far to the side of the ramp as possible. It was probably only taking up 2-3 feet on the side of the ramp. I bet 2 boat trailers could have still used the ramp. And since it's only a plastic yak, he should drag it over on the rocks? The ramp is there for all to use until they come up with a dedicated yak launching ramp.

[Saltwaterwalt]

A rig left at the ramp should be towed, or at least heavily vandalized .

LOL... maybe just towed ... into the lake!

On the other hand, boat ramps can be a real source of entertainment if you just go as an observer, pull out your lawn chair and video camera, crack a cold one and watch the fireworks...especially on a holiday weekend. :D

[Slacker]

LOL... maybe just towed ... into the lake!

On the other hand, boat ramps can be a real source of entertainment if you just go as an observer, pull out your lawn chair and video camera, crack a cold one and watch the fireworks...especially on a holiday weekend. :D

Lotta divorces get their start at the launch ramp.

[XxthejuicexX]

I kayak fish with a friend that does not have a trailer or truck and has to haul his yak on top of his small, Japanese, fuel efficient car. His only option is what you describe. Or, he could park in the lot, rig his yak and hope someone would help him carry it to the ramp(not likely).

And I bet the yak was as far to the side of the ramp as possible. It was probably only taking up 2-3 feet on the side of the ramp. I bet 2 boat trailers could have still used the ramp. And since it's only a plastic yak, he should drag it over on the rocks? The ramp is there for all to use until they come up with a dedicated yak launching ramp.



I'm cool with driving to the water to unload one, I have one they get heavy. He left it laying sideways blocking 10'+ of the ramp and yes if it's busy drag it off the ramp so other people can unload/load a boat while you go park, it was really busy and people were having to park way up where you turn into Stewarts creek ramp, so it's a good long walk and a long time to hold up the ramp.



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[XxthejuicexX]

Oh and the small jap car was a joke about the "something funny" post.


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[tkwalker]

Oh and the small jap car was a joke about the "something funny" post.


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They are sold by Mercedes Benz .. ... :)

[XxthejuicexX]

Not the Smart car, the guy with the kayak was driving a Toyota.

[tkwalker]

Not the Smart car, the guy with the kayak was driving a Toyota.

I reread the post ... Now juice, remember I am getting old !! :)

[Pookie]

Real men fish out of boats with outboard motors that are pulled by real trucks that are at least half ton, mostly 3/4, and sometimes dually.

[Slacker]

I gotta agree with the original post. No reason to leave a kayak sitting anywhere on a boat ramp.

[XxthejuicexX]

Real men fish out of boats with outboard motors that are pulled by real trucks that are at least half ton, mostly 3/4, and sometimes dually.


This is the quality of fish you catch out of Real men bass boats..... I think if my boat was newer and truck was bigger it might have helped catch an even bigger bass. :cool:

[jad2t]

Real men fish out of boats with outboard motors that are pulled by real trucks that are at least half ton, mostly 3/4, and sometimes dually.

That's funny because there are quite a large number of kayak fishermen who can out fish many of the bassboat guys on JPP anyday.

I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee so at least I have that going for my manliness. I hope it's not damaged too much by my kayak.

[Heiny57]

It's OK if you carry it one handed, and fart a lot while doing so. :D

[Travis C.]

Mine is pretty manly. It can carry as much beer as fishing gear.

http://www.wernerpaddlesblog.com/.a/6a00e5519ea7d2883401053683789f970c-800wi

:D

[XxthejuicexX]

^ And you win this thread!

[TNBronzeback]

[QUOTE=jad2t;49601]That's funny because there are quite a large number of kayak fishermen who can out fish many of the bassboat guys on JPP anyday.

Its a status symbol in my opinion. Ive seen too many times when im in a bay catching crappies or scouting around with my electronics, a big, fast , glittery bass boat comes screaming, looks for other boats, and if there arent any other bass fisherman, they just turn back around and leave. Its like Dude, just cause there arent 20 boats beating the bank like a train, doesnt mean there arent any fish back there. I understand the power fishing technique, but that would mean your would still have to wet a line in order to power fish. LOL.
its amazing that most of the guys in the tourneys catch the bags they do with all the running around they do.

[Saltwaterwalt]

I've always said I'm glad I don't have one of those high horsepower Indy car bass boats. It would distract from my fishing for sure. I mean fishing is fun, but if I didn't get a bite in the first two minutes and owned a boat that would scream 70 all the way across the lake, that's what I'd be doing!

[XxthejuicexX]

I've always said I'm glad I don't have one of those high horsepower Indy car bass boats. It would distract from my fishing for sure. I mean fishing is fun, but if I didn't get a bite in the first two minutes and owned a boat that would scream 70 all the way across the lake, that's what I'd be doing!

You have to fight the urge to leave an area when not catching fish... but $3.50 a gallon gas makes me focus on one area. My boat drinks gas and I can't afford to drive all over the lake every weekend. Mine does not go 70 but 60 will get you around pretty quickly.

[Pinwheeled]

Guys catch big bags running around like that because they know what to look for. Sure, there are a few guys that just like to show off how fast their boat is but most aren't like that. Those aren't the ones winning tournaments either. There is typically a method to the madness.


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[Doc Marshall]

Good grief. The boat ramp belongs to everyone who has to unload a boat, even if it's a kayak. You simply wait your turn and unload as quickly as you can. And, no, a fishing kayak does not belong on the rocks. I had mine off to the side, and launched as fast as possible, leaving plenty of room for another boat.

I too dislike waiting, but I've also sat in line at the ramp while bass boaters struggled with their engines or yelled at their wives to back up the truck etc. This is all par for the course at a public lake. The patience is all part of the courtesy.

I drive an old Japanese car, not only because I hate America, but because I don't want to waste money on fuel or car payments. I need that money for guitars and mircrobrews.

Next time I'll drive down that ramp on a girl's tricycle and spend an hour unloading my inner tube and teddy bears. Each one needs a separate outfit.

[agelesssone]

God bless you Doc Marshall! I'll be right there with you, unloading my inflatable "bass buddy" float tube!! With six rods, swim fins, castable sonar unit, etc.!!

[Pookie]

Good grief. The boat ramp belongs to everyone who has to unload a boat, even if it's a kayak.

Technically, you are right, however, exactly how much revenue does a kayak generate? Those TN numbers on the side of my boat cost money, and I have yet to see any numbers/sticker on the side of a kayak.

It's the same situation around Radnor Lake. Those walkers/joggers are downright indignant about you driving through the area. The fact is, those damn tennis shoes they are wearing have never contributed one red cent toward road construction. On the other hand, FET on tires and motor fuel taxes are what build roads.

Ramp etiquette is not limited to power boats. It doesn't matter if you are launching a washtub or a cruiser, get it in the water and get out of my way. And...if you are launching from dusk to dark, please turn your headlights off, my pet peeve revealed.

[Travis C.]

I've always said I'm glad I don't have one of those high horsepower Indy car bass boats. It would distract from my fishing for sure. I mean fishing is fun, but if I didn't get a bite in the first two minutes and owned a boat that would scream 70 all the way across the lake, that's what I'd be doing!

I am right there with you Walt. I owned a harley for years and always wanted to try a sport bike but never brought myself to do it. Was afraid of what the speed/fun effect may cause or cost ultimately in a hayabusa. :D

It would have been fun for sure and imagine the same scenario would play out in a boat.

[jad2t]

Technically, you are right, however, exactly how much revenue does a kayak generate? Those TN numbers on the side of my boat cost money, and I have yet to see any numbers/sticker on the side of a kayak.


So bass boaters get priority over a kayaker on using the ramp just because you pay for a registration?

[XxthejuicexX]

My comments were not supposed to get a fight brewing. I don't care what you fish out of, Bass boat, kayak, inner tube. I don't care what you pull it with, ride your damn tricycle for all I care. I understand having patience but when it's busy try your best to get in and out in a hurry. Doc Marshal the jap car comment was only made because of the other post that started discussing Global warming... or climate change and smart cars pulling trailers with kayaks on them. If your kayak is not laying sideways blocking half the ramp, good for you. I would say the same thing if big boat and launched then parked on the ramp it does not matter what you fish out of. And your kayak is plastic, or polymer if you prefer that term, it's ok if it sits on the gravel or rocks, pretty sure the ramp will scratch it just as much as gravel or rock. I pull my boat up on the rocky bank if I have to, but then again my boat is not 40k. Look, I did not want to get a fight going between the fishing groups but it happened because people seem to have taken things personally because you can't perceive humor and sarcasm online. Alright, I am off to make more coffee at my office because I work with people who do not make a fresh pot after finishing the old one......... this annoys me too, lets see if I can piss people off at my office this morning by making a smart A$$ comment. :) Can't we all just get along.

[Fishbus]

I like this guy. Turns out I'm not the ONLY one who hates America!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Billy


Good grief. The boat ramp belongs to everyone who has to unload a boat, even if it's a kayak. You simply wait your turn and unload as quickly as you can. And, no, a fishing kayak does not belong on the rocks. I had mine off to the side, and launched as fast as possible, leaving plenty of room for another boat.

I too dislike waiting, but I've also sat in line at the ramp while bass boaters struggled with their engines or yelled at their wives to back up the truck etc. This is all par for the course at a public lake. The patience is all part of the courtesy.

I drive an old Japanese car, not only because I hate America, but because I don't want to waste money on fuel or car payments. I need that money for guitars and mircrobrews.

Next time I'll drive down that ramp on a girl's tricycle and spend an hour unloading my inner tube and teddy bears. Each one needs a separate outfit.

[XxthejuicexX]

i like this guy. Turns out i'm not the only one who hates america!

Hahahahahahaha

billy


lol x 100

[jad2t]

Alright, I am off to make more coffee at my office because I work with people who do not make a fresh pot after finishing the old one......... this annoys me too

There are few things I hate more in life than people who do that. There are people here who leave the last few ounces in the pot without starting another brew so the next guy is left with a tiny bit of old, burnt coffee. I equate them with Obama supporters. Uh oh.. did I just make another comment to get fights brewing (no pun intended) in here?

[Doc Marshall]

It's all good, man.

The office coffee thing reminds me of living with roommates, many years ago. There was always a passive aggressive war involving who would refill the Brita.

Now that I'm married I can freely declare I lost that war.

[XxthejuicexX]

It's all good, man.

The office coffee thing reminds me of living with roommates, many years ago. There was always a passive aggressive war involving who would refill the Brita.

Now that I'm married I can freely declare I lost that war.


Glad that I am not the only one with a wife that refuses to fill the Brita. She also does not like me leaving it out so that when I go to drink water it's not ice cold.

[agelesssone]

Although I got a little steamed this morning when two old geezers (about my age) pulled their boat onto the ramp apron and then started prepping the boat for launch.

They gave me a dirty look when I almost brushed the one guy with my truck as he was standing 8 ft away from the boat, chatting with the other guy and I pulled onto the apron to back down the ramp.

[Pookie]

So bass boaters get priority over a kayaker on using the ramp just because you pay for a registration?
Feel free to point out where I said that.

What I said was:
Technically, you are right, however, exactly how much revenue does a kayak generate? Those TN numbers on the side of my boat cost money, and I have yet to see any numbers/sticker on the side of a kayak.


Ramp etiquette is not limited to power boats.

You can bet that if and when it becomes a real problem, TWRA will offer you guys a nature trail to launch a kayak from. Fact is, you don't even need a ramp when there is miles of shoreline.

[Reel Tune]

From what I've heard TWRA is talking with some paddling groups about what paddlers would like to see for access. The people fishing from these crafts are so small compared to the paddle community as a whole. Most of the time I don't use a ramp if there is a decent, safe area to shore launch from I would much rather do that anyway. Last night I parked my truck in the lot, threw my kayak over my shoulder and carried it 35-40 yards to the grassy area where I launched from 75' from the actual concrete "boat" ramp. I then made 5-7 trips for rods, electronics, battery, tackle, coffee, and all the other crap I take with me. I took my sweet time, and was not rushed by anyone. The only time I was held up was when this near 80 year old guy wouldn't leave me alone when I was trying to leave, but that was ok.

I pull my little 80# kayak with a trailer and full size American 4X4 truck. The kayak gets 15 miles per gallon of coffee, and 1 Cliff bar, or Pop Tarts so I figure I'll drive a gas guzzler.

As far as the coffee situation at work I cannot stand community coffee so I brew 12 cups for work everyday, it gets me by for 8 hrs.

[Headhunter]

If a kayak (or canoe, etc.) is used on a body of water where all other boats have to be registered, then they should have to be registered.

[XxthejuicexX]

I pull my little 80# kayak with a trailer and full size American 4X4 truck. The kayak gets 15 miles per gallon of coffee, and 1 Cliff bar, or Pop Tarts so I figure I'll drive a gas guzzler.


Merica, By GOD!

[jad2t]

Feel free to point out where I said that.

Fact is, you don't even need a ramp when there is miles of shoreline.

We don't but when I'm in a hurry to get on the water I don't want to make several long trips to and from my Jeep to my kayak that is off on the side of the bank through the woods somewhere.

Someone said something along the lines of, "Goodness, the ramps belong to everyone who pays for them so quit whining". To which you responded, "Technically, you are right, however, exactly how much revenue does a kayak generate? Those TN numbers on the side of my boat cost money, and I have yet to see any numbers/sticker on the side of a kayak." Unless I misunderstood what you said it seemed like you were implying that you have more of a right to use the ramp because you pay for a license.

[jaycee]

5370
Very crowded at Stewarts Creek Ramp this am. This "fisherman" took 3 spaces. No words available to describe my thoughts.

[Westwindmike]

I thought only kayaks clogged up the system?

[Fish Whisperer]

I would have let the air out of his tires.. I did it to some ahole that did the same thing at hunters point.


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[Pookie]

I had just about rather have a bad case of heartburn than to fish at Priest. If I must, I promise you it will be during the week and never on the weekend. I am fortunate to be self-employed and can afford to take a day or two off randomly to go fishing when the bite is on.

As I see it, there are so many water interests on Priest, and ALL of them wanting to enjoy their sport at the same time. Kayaks, canoes, tin cans, jet skis, jet boats, bass boats, cruisers and houseboaters...and most want to launch at Elm Hill.

I'll take Kentucky Lake all day, every day. I can put in at Mason's, Lucas Harbor, or Cuba Landing depending on how far I want to drive, and always have a great day on the water.