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SalmonDaze
12-21-2013, 05:42 PM
Today at the steam plant; got shut out while targeting stripers. Cast, trolled both in the river and in front of the blockade. Only a bit of bait breaking the surface.

Water was stained early but seemed to clear up a bit toward noon. Only saw one other boat. Great day: modest mist on occasion, and wind would come up and down. Definitely going to be after 'em again during the coming week.

Pookie
12-22-2013, 04:59 AM
Definitely going to be after 'em again during the coming week.

Good luck. Looks like it's going to be high and muddy.

tacklemake
12-23-2013, 08:16 AM
That sounds like cat fishing weather to me..........woody

SalmonDaze
12-23-2013, 09:38 AM
Good luck. Looks like it's going to be high and muddy.

Not sure I understand . . . a Thunderstorm on Saturday means the following week is a washout? http://www.thehulltruth.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

The forecast looks really good; hopefully, the water clears up today and tomorrow for a Christmas striper-fest. :D

nomad60
12-23-2013, 03:47 PM
Not sure I understand . . . a Thunderstorm on Saturday means the following week is a washout? http://www.thehulltruth.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

The forecast looks really good; hopefully, the water clears up today and tomorrow for a Christmas striper-fest. :D

Don't know about your local area but the Cumberland here is running high (up about 10 feet), fast and muddy. I was told KY lake is nice and clear though...

agelesssone
12-23-2013, 09:14 PM
According to the TVA site, http://www.tva.gov/lakes/ohh_r.htm, OH is now about 16 ft over summer pool.

Summer pool being roughly 386 elevation, tonight it is running at 402.47 ft elevation.

IT'S ROLLIN!

tkwalker
12-24-2013, 12:48 AM
According to the TVA site, http://www.tva.gov/lakes/ohh_r.htm, OH is now about 16 ft over summer pool.

Summer pool being roughly 386 elevation, tonight it is running at 402.47 ft elevation.

IT'S ROLLIN!

Merv, these pool elevations levels looked a little strange since I took My USCG Capt's lic. in2001 ... I checked my Corp nav maps and What I think you are reading is the water elevation below OH Dam. (385 feet is normal pool for Cheatham so at 402 correct it is 16 feet higher than normal/summer pool which is not uncommon after the rains we have had ) . But this is in the immediate area of the discharge of the Dam (The tailrace) She's pushing 41,00 Cubic feet of water per second ... This elevation is not uncommon at the tail race ... As you noticed it stated at the tailwater (tailrace)

I looked at Cordell Hull's tailrace which is now actually Old Hickory lake and it is 457 feet ... Norm/summer pool for old hickory is 445 so it is 12 feet with in the immediate area ... not uncommon ... I use to ramp in and out at Carthage which is 4 miles down stream of Cordell Hull and indeed the ramp can get shorter or longer depending on Gen schedules ... I would put in with no generation and usually come out with two or more Gens on ... and the water would rise vertical 8 to 10 feet at the ramp Cordell Hull was only pushing 33,600 CFS at the time And with in a 24 hour time you would never see the water at Flippers in Gallatin fluctuate over a foot or two ..

These are normal/summer lake pool elevations: COE/TVA :

Cordell Hull Lake above the Dam in Carthage ... is 504 feet ...
Below Cordell Hull Dam which is now Old Hickory ...Normal pool is 445 feet. until you lock through Old Hickory Dam In Old Hickory... Then the water Elevation below Old Hickory , which is now Cheatham lake is a normal pool of 385 feet ... (These are normal pool elevations for these three lakes)....

Now these elevations will increase with generation as will the current ... But the elevation will decline the further it goes down stream from the Dam during normal conditions ...

What usually indicates a higher than normal elevation through out the entire lake is To much water. in this case A lot of rain in the area or coming from up stream ... Also the Corps uses Old hickory as a balancing lake as much as possible to try to control the pipeline flow downstream into Cheatham and Barkley ... But they blew it in May of 2010 during the floods .. <'TK>< :)

SalmonDaze
12-24-2013, 08:38 AM
Merv, these pool elevations levels looked a little strange since I took My USCG Capt's lic. in2001 ... I checked my Corp nav maps and What I think you are reading is the water elevation below OH Dam. (385 feet is normal pool for Cheatham so at 402 correct it is 16 feet higher than normal/summer pool . . .

These are normal/summer lake pool elevations: COE/TVA :

Cordell Hull Lake above the Dam in Carthage ... is 504 feet ...
Below Cordell Hull Dam which is now Old Hickory ...Normal pool is 445 feet. . . .But they blew it in May of 2010 during the floods .. <'TK>< :)

This is why I read this board and what makes the interweb useful.

Thanks TK!!!

agelesssone
12-24-2013, 09:16 AM
You're right, TK.

When I said Old Hickory, I should have said "below the dam", which is, as you stated, Cheatam watershed.

Glad you cleared that up for the readers. I was probably into my third glass of Jack and Coke and didn't realize I was actually posting erroneously about Old Hickory Lake.

Thanks again for clearing that up!

agelesssone
12-24-2013, 09:27 AM
And like you said, the farther from any dam, the less the rise in water elevation.

You talked about the rise in elevation four miles below Cordell Hull as being 8-10 feet and yet down in Hendersonville by OH dam, it rarely changes more than 18-24 inches.

And on JPP, they had expected 2-3 inches of rain this weekend and so had lowered the lake another nine inches below winter pool. And not getting that much rain, they shut of the flow to the Stones River Sunday to let the lake rise up again.

After having fished static elevation lakes in Illinois most of my life, it's taking a bit of adjusting, to know what the fish do in rising/falling water, fast current or no current in the lake/river, etc.

All in all an enjoyable journey.

And this site and the people on it are a great contribution to my fishing pleasure.

Well, except for one guy....who, hopefully his senility will worsen and he'll forget how to navigate to this site....