Got this off of FB from a TWRA agent and Doug Markham This is awful

[tcintn]

Doug Markham's photo.

Wildlife Agency Arrests Four Men For Keeping 360 Fish Over The Limit


DOUG NOTE: This press release will be heading out across the state, but if you have friends with fishing/hunting FB pages or websites, please send this information on to them. This needs to not happen---EVER. Most of us do what is right, but I agree with localwaters in a post below--this can do major damage if allowed to continue and its simply not right when so many of us abide by our game and fish laws.

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Wildlife officers commonly issue citations to people who keep more fish than legally allowed, but on Tuesday the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency charged four adult men with the possession of 90 fish above a long-established creel limit.
“That was 90 fish over and above the limit for each of them,” noted arresting Wildlife Officer Brad Bagwell. “The most they could have had in their total possession was 60—or 15 white bass per person-- but they had a total of 420 when they finally quit fishing.”
Also known by many anglers as stripe, this is the time of year when white bass prepare to spawn and school in rivers where eddying current creates ideal habitat for them. Experienced anglers take advantage of this late winter run in the tail-waters below Cumberland River dams.
“Part of the idea of establishing creel limits is to help spread out the amount of fish available to everyone,” noted Bagwell. “This was a lot of white bass that could have been enjoyed by others whether as table fare or just to catch and release.”
The four men, all with Nashville addresses, are set to appear in Cheatham County General Session Court April 24 for a preliminary hearing. Khamnovan Keomanychanh, 60, Kongkham Phenevongsa, 68, So Akhom, 70, and Phay Souksavong, 78, will each face charges of exceeding the daily creel limit six times.
“When I saw how many fish there were, I had the four suspects help separate them into piles of 10 fish each,” said Bagwell. “When we got all them separated there were 42 piles and that came out to 90 fish over the limit per man.”
Bagwell and assisting officers Major Cape Taylor and Wildlife Officer Eric Tummins—called by Bagwell to provide backup--confiscated as evidence ten fishing rods and reels, and the 360 white bass in excess of the legal limit.
“Sometimes we have problems with people illegally netting game fish, “ said Bagwell, “but everyone of these white bass were caught in day with rod, reels, and artificial tackle.”

[tcintn]

These 4 old men did wrong,but they most have been good fishermen.
I feel these are the same older men I reported to TWRA doing something like this on the Caney two years a go.

[Jkfishing]

Here's a link to his Facebook Paige for the pics of the fishes.

https://www.facebook.com/dougmarkhamoutdoors

[Travis C.]

That is ridiculous. Good thing they will have to answer for that.

It reminds me a family members property that I used to deer hunt on back in the mid-late 90's. I was leaving along a ridge logging road walking out and noticed several feeders set up almost on our property line. The adjoining land was owned by Sammy Kershaw. Not too long after that, I was leaving the woods on a separate hunt and met 3 trucks of TWRA agents entering our property by my truck. They asked where I had hunted, checked licenses and asked me if I'd close the gate so the horses wouldn't get out behind them.

It wasn't very long until Sammy got busted for donating 2-3 hundred pounds of deer meat that was taken over the feeders.

[Saltwaterwalt]

Wow, entirely wrong, but sure would like to see their technique! :D

[Alphahawk]

That is quite common when fishing for white bass. I have had many....albeit long days.....of 200 fish a day. When they are making their spawning run I crimp the barb down on the hook to get them off quick and get back in the water. Down at Pickwick when they make their run a lot of folks will use 2 jigs on the line....15 casts and 30 fish. I hope the judge takes their boat...truck...and fine them lots.



Regards

[agelesssone]

From the info I have, they were shore fishing, had all their tackle confiscated, but not the vehicle they used to get there. That should have been confiscated also, IMO.

Hopefully they will get hefty fines (like $75.00 per fish over the limit) and revocation of licensing for five years.

[Aquaholic6801]

Sad thing is that they are only one group of a many that keep way over their limit of fish.......

[blink]

Yeah that is sad. In GA if you had over your limit of trout or didnt have a trout stamp it was $100 per fish.
I would be happy if they gave those effers a $9000 fine each!

[bigbird]

Ban them from having a hunting/fishing license for life. Next time they get caught hunting/fishing = deportation!

[CreekWalker]

Why should this be taken off of Doug's FB site, TWRA, etc.? It should be publicized. Hooray for TWRA for making the bust. Hopefully it'll reduce the number of idiots keeping too many fish and damaging the resource.

Oh, and they may be "good" fishermen but in my opinion anyone that can physically cast a line can catch white bass when they're running.

[MNfisher]

Why should this be taken off of Doug's FB site, TWRA, etc.?.

Who said it should be taken off?

[Headhunter]

They were fishing from a boat.

[rodholder]

Think about how many fish they killed before they were caught. 420 X ? days. This makes me sick!!:(

[Mnfishingbum]

They should take the boat and truck too. Everything used to poach fish

[ditz1]

This is poaching and should be treated as such regardless of age. I have no sympathy. They should get the max. and that may not be enough. They have apparantly been doing this for years. All gear and vehicles should have been confiscated and the offenders taken to jail if that is within the law.

[Mnfishingbum]

Totally agree.

[rodholder]

According to this response from a comment on Doug Markum's Facebook page, this isn;t the first time these old dudes have pulled this trick!! Now is the time to throw the book at them!!


(Name Removed) I have heard from a very reliable source that : "These individuals were reported to both TWRA and the US Fish and Wildlife Service. My source said sadly, "he had observed these individuals below the dam almost every day since November catching fish in large numbers."







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[URL="https://www.facebook.com/dougmarkhamoutdoors"]Doug Markham (https://www.facebook.com/dougmarkhamoutdoors#) (Name Removed), you are correct. But this is the only time they have been caught.

[ditz1]

I hate to say it but if the last post is accurate why did it take so long for these felons to be caught? It seems that the law has not been doing thier job and a reprimand could well be in order.

[Mnfishingbum]

Very sad.

[rodholder]

I hate to say it but if the last post is accurate why did it take so long for these felons to be caught? It seems that the law has not been doing thier job and a reprimand could well be in order.

Here is the exact comment and response from the comments section of this story, direct from Doug's Facebook. If you get the chance, take a look and read all the comments. Doug handles some comments from an Asian lady very well.....I think he is a great advocate for the sporting community. I too was upset that it took so long to take action on these poachers!!

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Michael Finks (https://www.facebook.com/michael.finks) I have heard from a very reliable source that : "These individuals were reported to both TWRA and the US Fish and Wildlife Service. My source said sadly, "he had observed these individuals below the dam almost every day since November catching fish in large numbers."
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Doug Markham (https://www.facebook.com/dougmarkhamoutdoors) Michael, you are correct. But this is the only time they have been caught.
Friday at 1:00pm (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451360414943799&set=a.278208908925618.64750.278192305593945&type=1&comment_id=3068736&offset=0&total_comments=125) ·

[Aquaholic6801]

Here is the exact comment and response from the comments section of this story, direct from Doug's Facebook. If you get the chance, take a look and read all the comments. Doug handles some comments from an Asian lady very well.....I think he is a great advocate for the sporting community. I too was upset that it took so long to take action on these poachers!!



Michael Finks (https://www.facebook.com/michael.finks) I have heard from a very reliable source that : "These individuals were reported to both TWRA and the US Fish and Wildlife Service. My source said sadly, "he had observed these individuals below the dam almost every day since November catching fish in large numbers."
Friday at 12:36pm (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451360414943799&set=a.278208908925618.64750.278192305593945&type=1&comment_id=3068671&offset=0&total_comments=125) · Like (https://www.facebook.com/dougmarkhamoutdoors#) · 1 (https://www.facebook.com/browse/likes?id=451818691564638)




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Doug Markham (https://www.facebook.com/dougmarkhamoutdoors) Michael, you are correct. But this is the only time they have been caught.
Friday at 1:00pm (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451360414943799&set=a.278208908925618.64750.278192305593945&type=1&comment_id=3068736&offset=0&total_comments=125) ·


So it took them 4 MONTHS to catch these guys even though it had been reported to them and that have been probably do this most everyday since November......If it took that long for me to do my job I would have been fired a long time ago.......

[agelesssone]

It might seem to me that if these individuals had been observed and reported prior to this arrest, the TWRA could have made a concerted effort to respond when they receive these reports.

I'm sure there were descriptions made by the reporting sportsmen about the "oriental" persons. When there is a pattern of phone calls made about these persons of interest, why not create a folder on a computer in the TWRA office that is responsible for policing these complaints so that special attempts can be made to apprehend them. They seem to be serial offenders and would do this at every opportunity.

[CreekWalker]

Who said it should be taken off?

It is in bold on the default/subject line of this original thread.

[browntrout]

It is in bold on the default/subject line of this original thread.

It means that is where it came from. Doug Markham had it posted on his Facebook and he took the post from there and copied it to Fishing Tn. It says Got this off not Get this off.

Roy

[CreekWalker]

It means that is where it came from. Doug Markham had it posted on his Facebook and he took the post from there and copied it to Fishing Tn. It says Got this off not Get this off.

Roy

My bad! Thanks for the correction.

[CreekWalker]

My bad! Thanks for the correction.

Clearly I read good! ;)

Anyways it's good the story is being shared!

[Aquaholic6801]

I thought I saw the court date posted somewhere....I cant seem to find it....could someone post it if they know...I may go if possible....

[Jdkxtreme]

April 24th per Doug's page

[agelesssone]

What time and location. I'd like to be there for the hearing. I want to see their faces so I could recognize them if I ever saw them out fishing.

[Jdkxtreme]

That's all I know.

[bigbird]

What time and location. I'd like to be there for the hearing. I want to see their faces so I could recognize them if I ever saw them out fishing.


Cheatam Co. Gen. Sessions Court on Apr. 24th, per the original post.

[Griz1860]

Hi, guys. I've been lurking on this site for quite sometime and finally decided to register. I thought everyone would like to know that these fishermen are in trouble yet again. Working off a tip, TWRA officers cited two of these fishermen again yesterday for fishing on revoked licenses. They were back fishing below Cheatham Dam in a boat very similar to the one they were caught in previously. In fact, it may have actually been the same boat that had just been painted to look differently. I sure would like to see justice served this time. Maybe we should voice our opinions to TWRA? I know a lot about this case so please feel free to PM me for complete details. Thanks!

[browntrout]

Hi, guys. I've been lurking on this site for quite sometime and finally decided to register. I thought everyone would like to know that these fishermen are in trouble yet again. Working off a tip, TWRA officers cited two of these fishermen again yesterday for fishing on revoked licenses. They were back fishing below Cheatham Dam in a boat very similar to the one they were caught in previously. In fact, it may have actually been the same boat that had just been painted to look differently. I sure would like to see justice served this time. Maybe we should voice our opinions to TWRA? I know a lot about this case so please feel free to PM me for complete details. Thanks!

If this is true the TWRA needs to make an example of them this time. This just goes to show that these people have no regards for our laws and our natural resources.

Roy

[Pookie]

If this is true the TWRA needs to make an example of them this time. This just goes to show that these people have no regards for our laws and our natural resources.

Roy

TWRA doesn't have the authority to make an example of anyone. Their penalty (if found guilty) will be arranged through the district attorney and general sessions judge. I doubt much will come of it.

[tacklemake]

Just think how many they got before they got caught, hell string them up..............woody

[Griz1860]

TWRA doesn't have the authority to make an example of anyone. Their penalty (if found guilty) will be arranged through the district attorney and general sessions judge. I doubt much will come of it.

Yes, but the penalty that the Agency is seeking is taken into consideration.

[Reel Tune]

This is sad to hear if it is true. People taking advantage of a resource, getting caught and being punished, and then turning around and doing it again. If this is true then the TWRA needs to peruse whatever course they need to, to let people know it's not alright to abuse our resources.

[Halli]

Set an example of the perps but let the Asian community know that silver
and big head carp can be harvested by the boat load just don't take gamefish.

[agelesssone]

Anyone have pictures of their ugly mugs so we know what they look like?

Somebody post their court dates so we can show up and get some pictures of them. Then when we see them fishing again, we can video them and use it as evidence to get them busted again.

[tsuggs]

I must be doin sumthin wrong.I have never had the pleasure of worrying about getting caught with too many fish.

[Tennoutdrsman]

TWRA has been working lock 3 HEAVILY lately I've noticed..My son and his friend got checked..My son showed his lifetime license and his bud his too..they guy seemed pissed off as he walked off..:p

[Griz1860]

Here's the write-up:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/2015/01/06/fishing-over-the-limit/21358131/ (http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/2015/01/06/fishing-over-the-limit/21358131/)

[Headhunter]

the "asian" community sells these fish (hybrids, stripers, and white bass) all year round. For some reason they are hard to catch but it is a common fact that they do and I believe that is one reason why those guys had so many and why they continued and will continue to fish unless they are in jail. A good number of the asian fisherman are not only persistent at fishing (none of them must have to work, when I get to fish every morning for several days in a row, I see the same ones there every day and on Priest when I fish everyday the same ones will be there morning and evening, every day) but they are also good at catching fish. Also be careful when you see them fishing on the bank and they are fishing from the bank, they will rob you blind. I have been told of a some instances when one or 2 of them will walk up to you (fishing from the bank) and distract you while another steals any extra gear you have on the bank.