Microwave guides

[Alphahawk]

Anyone ever fish a spinning rod with the new microwave guides? If so what are your opinions?

Regards

[old sailor]

Anyone ever fish a spinning rod with the new microwave guides? If so what are your opinions?

Regards

Read up on them a little. Interesting , sounds like it was made for an ultralite genious like you. Get well soon.

regards

[Alphahawk]

Read up on them a little. Interesting , sounds like it was made for an ultralite genious like you. Get well soon.

regards

Thanks old sailor....don't know about being the UL genius but I do love to UL fish. Was watching a fishing show and they were catching crappie on some rods that I thought the action looked pretty good. I called the guy that made the rods and asked him what it would cost to make me a rod with that action. He gave me a quote...reasonable I thought.....and then he asked had I ever tried the microwave guides. Told him no and he asked if I would like those guides on my rod. I had never heard of them and did not really want to try them. He tells me because of my UL fishing they were made for me. He then tells me he will send me a rod and if I don't like it return it. So no money has changed hands...the rod arrives at more door...and I have made 2 casts with it from the front door of my house. I can't say it casts farther yet but it does cast different...in a good kind of way. Got nothing to lose so am going to try it hopefully by March 1. Didn't know if anyone on here had used them or not. Thanks for your input.


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[Travis C.]

I have seen him promote the new rods/reels he came up with.

Two thoughts...

1.) I don't know first hand as to whether the guides would increase casting or not ...BUT... before sinking a bunch of money I'd put a spinning reel on a baitcasting rod upside down and try casting it some. To me that is about the same.

2.) His new wave (I believe is the name) reel says it eliminates the big line twist by trapping the loop created on the spool in a saw blade shape at the spool's top. Supposed to allow you to take line off and keep the twist in its order of where it happend. That is why most gets the big total mess from a spinning reel by pulling it off out of sequence. You can simply remedy that by leaving the bail closed, loosen your drag out and pull line off slowly bail closed without the special reel.

Based on the second thing mentioned which I know to be true as both ways work for line twist... I'd say the first one about his new guides probably do work but whether they'd work better for cheaper than a spinning rod having a simple casting ceramic guide instead of the big guide next to the reel I don't know.

[MNfisher]

I don't quite understand the small guide inside the big guide. Isn't that the same as just a small guide without the big guide around it?

[Alphahawk]

I have seen him promote the new rods/reels he came up with.

Two thoughts...

1.) I don't know first hand as to whether the guides would increase casting or not ...BUT... before sinking a bunch of money I'd put a spinning reel on a baitcasting rod upside down and try casting it some. To me that is about the same.

2.) His new wave (I believe is the name) reel says it eliminates the big line twist by trapping the loop created on the spool in a saw blade shape at the spool's top. Supposed to allow you to take line off and keep the twist in its order of where it happend. That is why most gets the big total mess from a spinning reel by pulling it off out of sequence. You can simply remedy that by leaving the bail closed, loosen your drag out and pull line off slowly bail closed without the special reel.

Based on the second thing mentioned which I know to be true as both ways work for line twist... I'd say the first one about his new guides probably do work but whether they'd work better for cheaper than a spinning rod having a simple casting ceramic guide instead of the big guide next to the reel I don't know.

Yeah I think Doug Hannon started this but the company that made my rod has nothing to do with him. They have been custom making rods for 45 years and it was just a suggestion from the rod builder that I might want to try them. I am not out any money so I will just see how it works. The guide set is expensive...45 bucks from Mudhole. I just wanted a rod with that action for crappie....and it is a very well made rod.....it was built by Kissel Krafts and the price was not outrageous. Still 4 weeks before I can try to catch a fish on it though.

Regards

[Alphahawk]

I don't quite understand the small guide inside the big guide. Isn't that the same as just a small guide without the big guide around it?

I don't know. There are some slow motion videos of it on youtube. But I can tell you this. Just standing on my front porch and casting it you do know you have something different. How that translates to catching fish I will have to see.

Regards

[Travis C.]

Let's us know how it fishes.

I always wondered about the micro guides on the baitcasting rods too.

[robhal11]

Travis, fished Guntersville last fall with an FLW guy and all his baitcasters had the micro's. He could cast 10-15 yards past me. This was a hugh deal on the grass mats down there. He said those micro's made his cast that much more than mine. I would like to try a set of these on one of my spinning outfits. I like the idea of the less line twist. I would like to put them on a 7' or 7-6 GL3 Jig rod and try out with a hair fly or shaky head. I think we have several rod builders on here, how much would it cost me to get the old ones off and these on. Thanks guys.

[Alphahawk]

This rod not only has the micro guides but the stripper guide is called a microwave guide. It is a guide inside of a guide...it does cast smooth with no vibration at all. Was on the front porch this morning casting this thing again...LOL. I can tell you how good this concept works in about 3 to 4 weeks.


Regards

[robhal11]

Alpha, man I hope it does what they say it will because I fish quite a lot with spinning gear. I sure you will keep us posted. Get healed up so you can go try er out.

[MPD816]

Alpha,

Could you post a picture of the rod please sir, interested in seeing this rod? Thanks

[Alphahawk]

The only thing different about this rod is the first guide...all of the other guides are all micro guides....the first guide is called a microwave guide. I do have to admit standing on my front porch it sure casts good. I am excited to get on the water with it.


Regards

[Reel Tune]

This sounds like a really interesting concept. Another eye to get broken.lol

I'm intrested in hearing more about the rod, and what you think about it after some use.

Jeremy

[MNfisher]

The only thing different about this rod is the first guide...all of the other guides are all micro guides....the first guide is called a microwave guide. I do have to admit standing on my front porch it sure casts good. I am excited to get on the water with it.


Regards

What length and action is that rod?

[Alphahawk]

What length and action is that rod?

Mike it is an 6' 6" one piece UL made with an MHX freshwater blank. It is perfect for crappie...and it will do well for Gills also. I am not affiliated anyway with Kissel Krafts Rods. I saw a crappie fishing show with this rod...or I should say rod made with that blank.....and called and asked them about the rod. They asked would I be a guinea pig and try out their crappie rod made with the new microwave guide. He told me not to send him any money until I use it and if I don't like it just send it back. Well I haven't caught a fish yet as I have not been fishing but I stand on my porch and cast this thing and it casts like a dream. They have good feedback on the rods made with those guides for bass guys but my rod is the first in a light or UL they have made with that guide. Well I liked it so much that I ordered a 7' 3" UL with a moderate tip...under same deal...if I don't like it send it back. Cant beat that deal. Now whether they will do that for everyone I don't know. It is a family business and have been making rods for 45 years. I plan on giving feedback on these rods on March 1st...God willing. old sailor hit the nail on the head about these guides.....I think for UL they are a great thing. Hopefully you and I can hook up and hit that point at Pickwick in March-April....and you can try it out if you like.


Regards

[MNfisher]

Hopefully you and I can hook up and hit that point at Pickwick in March-April....and you can try it out if you like.

Regards

Thanks! Sounds like a great rod! Looking forward to making a trip to Pickwick with you again! I might head there with my father mid February when he is visiting. Especially if this flow stays up.

[bfish]

Supposedly the deal with microwave guide compared that when using microguides is that the lowermost guide is way up the rod with just micros. With the microwave, you can add it lower down on the blank (due to the added height) but still keep the tight spiral of the micros.

[Alphahawk]

Supposedly the deal with microwave guide compared that when using microguides is that the lowermost guide is way up the rod with just micros. With the microwave, you can add it lower down on the blank (due to the added height) but still keep the tight spiral of the micros.

If you will look at the videos on youtube you will see what that first guide does. You can't see it with the naked eye...it is too fast. It takes the vibration out of a cast. Chomping at the bit to try this rod out.

Regards

[agelesssone]

I just ordered a " Patriot" 7' light action rod with the MicroWave guides from Kissel Krafts.
Can't wait til it gets here. Two weeks, pay AFTER you get the rod!

[Alphahawk]

The crappie rod they made for me is absolutely perfect....meets all my expectations. I also have a 7' 3" rod I ordered for casting UL cranks with 4# or 6# test line. I bought a bunch of Rapalas new UL series of deep diving crank baits and really had no rod to use them with. They are a bit too heavy to use on a true UL with 2# test. I have already tested it out at Williamsport and it fits the bill perfect. Can't beat the fact that those folks will build you a rod and if you don't like it you just pay shipping and send it back. If your reading Walt I have to take the kayak out to try out my new Gill rod. I don't want to lay it down on the rocks on the bank and mess up the inlays and scratch it up. Williamsport is still a few weeks way for some great Gill action. Water is only 54 degrees.


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