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Travis C.
05-08-2012, 07:18 AM
Man my eyes were openend up with the Elite guys on Douglas Lake this past weekend. I believe BASS runs it on a week delay so the show will air this coming weekend.
The way they were fishing was new to me. The top guys and probably most the field were cranking in 30-50ft of water with Strike King Series 6XD. Almost all of them were using the same bait and hitting bottom in those depths with an unweighted crankbait.
http://www.bassmaster.com/news/long-lining-crankbait
Jeremy Starks won the event on Lake Douglas with a better than 4lb per fish average. On that lake its pretty darn good. He also said in a clip from day 4 that he could hit bottom in 50ft with his series 6XD without weight.
Talk about giving the bass something they haven't seen before...The end of a long point was where he was fishing which also had a depression on it. He said there were so many pre-spawners stacked up that he couldn't bring a retrieve in without hitting a fish wit hhis lure and at one point he had slime on his line from running through so many of them.
Check it out this weekend on Sunday where they air the show on ESPN2 (8am-9am eastern time).
Buccaneer
05-08-2012, 08:14 AM
Read this BassFan link about Jeremy Starks. He had 300 yards of line out using this technique! http://www.bassfan.com/news_article.asp?id=4259
How many of us are going to try this on Old Hickory? I will. However for a BASS tourney I am sort of up in the air on this. I think as long as a lure is in the water, they should not be allowed to run the big motor.
Travis C.
05-08-2012, 01:05 PM
Read this BassFan link about Jeremy Starks. He had 300 yards of line out using this technique! http://www.bassfan.com/news_article.asp?id=4259
How many of us are going to try this on Old Hickory? I will. However for a BASS tourney I am sort of up in the air on this. I think as long as a lure is in the water, they should not be allowed to run the big motor.
I will definitely be trying it. There are already three different ledges I can think of this will get tested on once I get back from FL. One area you might find a monster smallie or two by doing this.
What size line you think he was using? Does 25lb fluoro sink faster than 8lb fluoro?
The link said 300 yards and that could be a guesstimate but if remotely accurate that would mean small diameter to get that much out...right? The Revo reels hold what maybe 150-175 of 12lb test.
Travis C.
05-08-2012, 01:16 PM
http://www.bassmaster.com/video/starks-basscam-videos
Here is Starks bass cam video's from the weekend.
Buccaneer
05-08-2012, 03:30 PM
I read here he was using 8 - 12lb Flouro. http://www.bassmaster.com/news/long-lining-crankbait
Although he is sponsored by Abu and says he was using a Revo in 6.4:1 ratio. The only reel in their product line that has a 250 Yard, 14lb Mono capacity is the Revo Toro.
thehick176
05-08-2012, 03:35 PM
You would be lucky to find depths on The Hick and Priest to use such a technique. Not saying it isnt possible but would it really be worth the hassle. Kinda like the Alabama rig, is the expense really worth the reward?
Buccaneer
05-08-2012, 03:59 PM
I've got some ledge locations where it would be fun to find out if this technique will allow you to run the crankbait across the top and then have it follow the drop contour down to the 25' ballpark, all while maintaining bottom contact.
Travis C.
05-08-2012, 05:00 PM
I am in the same thinking... a few places it sure would be fun to see. It's not really as much getting the bait to 40 ft as it is running it at 25 for 100 yards. Although where the lock are is deep and I bet there hasn't been too many cranks ran around near the base of the concrete foundations if this is possible. So its not all long points or just ledges. Also digging it across the top of a submerged island then off the tail/head into channel might be interesting. There is lots of possibilities.
I have no desire to put anything into the A-Rig or T-Rig. Its not worth the expense like you said but this is just a change in tactic for me not equipment.
As far as worth the reward.... one 6lb class fish sure would be.
thehick176
05-08-2012, 05:55 PM
Nothing wrong with trying something new!
txnative
05-08-2012, 06:57 PM
In fly fishing, I use a removable sink-tip to get my flies down quickly. It is a length of hollow Dacron with lead inside, similar to lead-core line. It is looped at both ends, do it could be attached to your main line at one end and have a leader of mono attached to the other. It would definitely drop cranks and still be manageable, though it would be tough to cast.
BPS carries the Orvis brand, which have 2 lengths, giving you some options on how much weight to add. I believe they are around $11 per package.
Chris
Tennesseejugger
05-08-2012, 07:12 PM
nothing wrong with trying something new!
x 2, I have performed this technique several times with a DD22 and had great success running drop ledges on spencer creek. This is nothing new it has been around for decades. It is also very effective at the mouths of deep creek channels!
Travis C.
05-08-2012, 08:52 PM
x 2, I have performed this technique several times with a DD22 and had great success running drop ledges on spencer creek. This is nothing new it has been around for decades. It is also very effective at the mouths of deep creek channels!
How deep has the DD22 ran for you this way?
What size line would you run on it?
Wow, that sounds like a heck of a lot of work. I guess if it catches fish when nothing else will, you've got to do what you've got to do.
bd
Tennesseejugger
05-09-2012, 06:25 AM
How deep has the DD22 ran for you this way?
What size line would you run on it? I have got it down to 40 feet and hit the bottom, I use 20 # test Seagaur Fluoro with a 7.6 hvy action rod. When bass are stacked up on drops and ledges you can wear em out with reaction strikes.
Travis C.
05-09-2012, 07:31 AM
I have got it down to 40 feet and hit the bottom, I use 20 # test Seagaur Fluoro with a 7.6 hvy action rod. When bass are stacked up on drops and ledges you can wear em out with reaction strikes.
So you'd say the heavier fluoro was a benefit over a samll pound test fluoro for this?
I have a reel that needs new line is why I am asking and a 7.6 hvy rod that's collecting dust.
Thanks.
Tennesseejugger
05-09-2012, 08:10 AM
So you'd say the heavier fluoro was a benefit over a samll pound test fluoro for this?
I have a reel that needs new line is why I am asking and a 7.6 hvy rod that's collecting dust.
Thanks. The reason why I use the hvy line is due to the depth of the lure and the work that you have to do to reel in from deep water, thus the hvy action rod. You will feel like you are fighting a monster from just reeling in the lure at that depth.
Travis C.
05-09-2012, 09:33 AM
Do they thump or does it just feel different after a bite at that depth/distance?
It would be neat to feel it hit bottom that deep.
Tennesseejugger
05-09-2012, 09:36 AM
Do they thump or does it just feel different after a bite at that depth/distance?
It would be neat to feel it hit bottom that deep. It is kind of a sluggish hit but you will feel the resistance when they strike!
Travis C.
05-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Awesome, I am definitely trying in once I get back.
Tennesseejugger
05-09-2012, 09:50 AM
Awesome, I am definitely trying in once I get back. I will heading down to Fl on the 25th. And I am always looking for a fishing partner so lets wet a line sometime.
Tennesseejugger
05-09-2012, 09:57 AM
You would be lucky to find depths on The Hick and Priest to use such a technique. Not saying it isnt possible but would it really be worth the hassle. Kinda like the Alabama rig, is the expense really worth the reward?
I have used it several times on OH with good and sometimes great success!
Travis C.
05-09-2012, 10:49 AM
I will heading down to Fl on the 25th. And I am always looking for a fishing partner so lets wet a line sometime.
Where are you going? I will be in FL the 11th thru the 18th or 19th.
I'd like to. This month's been busy with doctor stuff, family vacation and daughter's birthday once we get back. Definititely plan on fishing some once that's all over.
Tennesseejugger
05-09-2012, 11:09 AM
Where are you going? I will be in FL the 11th thru the 18th or 19th.
I'd like to. This month's been busy with doctor stuff, family vacation and daughter's birthday once we get back. Definititely plan on fishing some once that's all over.
I will be going to Panacea, it is on the gulf coast about 40 miles south of Tallahassee. I go down there twice per year, it is not a tourist place at all just a sleepy little fishing town! We get a charter one day and then surf fish on other days. My wife like the charter fishing and lays on the beach while I surf fish. We are usually the only people on the beach that is how secluded it is...Perfect! There is also a pier there at Mashes Sands beach and park that I fish from. I take my cast net and collect finger mullet for bait. Caught a 80 pound bull shark there last year. Lots of Red's, Speck trout, flounder and Spanish mac that all can be caught from the beach or the pier. There is allot of grass marsh out there and I usually see several yakers out in the flats tearing the reds up.
Travis C.
05-09-2012, 11:45 AM
That sounds fun.
My aunt is letting us stay in their house in Deltona next to one of Lake Butler Chain lakes. We'll be back n forth between there and Dayton though.
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