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TimAub
03-23-2012, 02:48 PM
Where can I buy one?

white95v6
03-23-2012, 03:53 PM
Where can I buy one?

any place for the most part that sells fishing things. i seen the at wally world and BPS.

well they are the AL rig. but just use them as a tn rig.

Scott715
03-23-2012, 06:15 PM
There's a guy selling them on eBay and I must admit they're put together very well. He's selling them for around $20 with free shipping, which is slightly cheaper than bass pro. Check for auctions under screen name fish4you.

bd-
03-28-2012, 09:43 PM
Poindexter's in Gallatin has them.

bd

Scott715
03-28-2012, 11:01 PM
Fate Sanders had a TN & AL rig for around $15. I asked "isn't the AL rig illegal to use in TN?" She responded "not to sell...." lol....

Tennesseejugger
03-29-2012, 09:22 AM
Make your own, go to Lowe's and get some marker flags, cut to desired length. Then get some JB waterweld...take one of the wires and bend to make an eye, take a wooden board place some cooking oil on it SO putty does not stick. Kneed your putty and make it flat on the board. Place wire with eye in the middle. take a hammer and mash the ends of the two other wires so that they will not slip out. Place other two wires on each side of wire with eye. roll putty around wires and shape it like a fish head. Let cure for 24 hours. Take the opp end of wire and place a good swivel on wire and bend to make an eye so that swivel will remain. paint head and paint on some eyes and there you have it!

92nphigh
03-29-2012, 11:48 AM
Anglers Warehouse.

The Skinny 3 arm works very well. Under 10 Bucks

92nphigh
03-29-2012, 11:49 AM
Anglers Warehouse. The Skinny 3 arm is under 10 bucks.

titansfan2104
03-29-2012, 06:02 PM
Jim duckworths site has them for around $12 I think it was

jmull65
03-31-2012, 12:57 AM
they sell them at wal mart super center in cool springs thats where ive seen them but theyr a little bit to expensive for me

Scott715
03-31-2012, 02:23 AM
Make sure you have the setup to support that rig too. I now have 50 lb braid on my pole. It's good to find the fish actively feeding when you throw it. It's not a rig you can toss around for very long. It will wear you out!

bluemarlin
03-31-2012, 07:15 AM
Has anyone tried trolling these rigs? If so, where do troll, along bluffs?

StriperFan
03-31-2012, 04:20 PM
Has anyone tried trolling these rigs? If so, where do troll, along bluffs?
I have not trolled the tennessee rig, but I used to troll a tri-troller quite a bit. This rig is much like the tennessee rig, but is designed for trolling, the arms stretch out about a foot a piece. The rig will get you extra bites for sure. I would troll them on the edge of flats, points, channels, bluffs, the mouth of coves, the mouth of creeks, over submerged structure. Setting the bait near the bottom depth of bait schools, or just above the thermacline, for stripers anyway.

bluemarlin
04-05-2012, 04:59 PM
Maybe someone can help, am trying to understand how to stay legal, below is from the TWRA
Umbrella rigs can be legally fished in Tennessee waters as long as they comply with the regulation as described in the proclamation. An umbrella rig is defined as an array of more than three artificial lures or baits (with or without hooks) used by a single rod and reel combination. Each blade of a spinner bait would be considered a lure. If the hook sizes are 8 or smaller, all lures or baits may have hooks (single, double, or treble). If any hooks on the umbrella rig are hook size 6 or larger, then only one lure or bait in the array may have a hook and that hook must be a single hook.

So I can use size 8 on all arms, but then it states if any hooks are 6 or larger you can't use. ??? Are the rigs marketed as Alabama Rigs, like the Tom Mann sold at Walmart legal? They look like size 8 hooks.

Travis C.
04-05-2012, 05:31 PM
Maybe someone can help, am trying to understand how to stay legal, below is from the TWRA
Umbrella rigs can be legally fished in Tennessee waters as long as they comply with the regulation as described in the proclamation. An umbrella rig is defined as an array of more than three artificial lures or baits (with or without hooks) used by a single rod and reel combination. Each blade of a spinner bait would be considered a lure. If the hook sizes are 8 or smaller, all lures or baits may have hooks (single, double, or treble). If any hooks on the umbrella rig are hook size 6 or larger, then only one lure or bait in the array may have a hook and that hook must be a single hook.

So I can use size 8 on all arms, but then it states if any hooks are 6 or larger you can't use. ??? Are the rigs marketed as Alabama Rigs, like the Tom Mann sold at Walmart legal? They look like size 8 hooks.

Take a spinnerbait for example. IF you put that on your Alabama rig as it came from the package then that is (1) of your allowed three baits here in TN. IF you took the spinnerbait apart and slid the blade up the arm of the A-Rig and then attached the skirted part that is considered (2) baits.

The key to the definition as it reads now is how a lure is packaged as a lure. If you add a jig head to the arm then you can only have two others on two of the other arms regardless whether its 5 arms or not as long as its smaller than a size 6.

If its larger than size 6 you may only have one of the three with a hook and it has to be a single not treble.

Travis C.
04-05-2012, 05:39 PM
If the hooks on a crankbait are size 6 or smaller then you can legally have three crankbaits on the rig.

Maybe less confusing:

Greater than 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm but only (1) can have a single hook.

Less than and including size 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm.

bluemarlin
04-05-2012, 06:04 PM
So, as I understand, one can only use 3 baits never 5, right?

Alphahawk
04-05-2012, 06:08 PM
This explains it.


http://www.tn.gov/twra/fish/fishmain.html

Travis C.
04-05-2012, 06:11 PM
So, as I understand, one can only use 3 baits never 5, right?

Yes, no matter how you mix it up.

The thing that makes our regs seem odd is they were in place far before this A-Rig came on the scene and has nothing to do with it. The regs are intended to prevent striped bass mortality instead. Since they were already on the books this way, we have to go by them until its changed or amended.

It will be changed at some point.

DBirdtn
04-19-2012, 09:28 AM
Make your own, go to Lowe's and get some marker flags, cut to desired length. Then get some JB waterweld...take one of the wires and bend to make an eye, take a wooden board place some cooking oil on it SO putty does not stick. Kneed your putty and make it flat on the board. Place wire with eye in the middle. take a hammer and mash the ends of the two other wires so that they will not slip out. Place other two wires on each side of wire with eye. roll putty around wires and shape it like a fish head. Let cure for 24 hours. Take the opp end of wire and place a good swivel on wire and bend to make an eye so that swivel will remain. paint head and paint on some eyes and there you have it!
Man thanks for the tips.Gonna have to try that out just for the fun of it.Own several a rigs and absolutely love them in the right conditions and areas.

browntrout
04-19-2012, 10:26 AM
I guess I am missing something here. I am an ultra light fisherman and my primary species that I go after are trout and smallmouth. Doesn't using this thing take some of the fun out of fishing? 50 lb. braid? I guess everyone has their own things that they enjoy but I still enjoy fishing as a sport. Trying to convince a fish to hit a single bait, fighting it on light line and feeling like it is a fair match. I guess I just don't understand the need to have multiple baits and from what i understand there is basically no skill needed to throw those rigs. I do know that when I see someone throw one it is like throwing a big rock in the water. I am surprised it doesn't scare off all of the fish....lol just my .02 cents worth. Not wanting to make anyone mad just looking to be schooled.

SAMBOLIE
04-19-2012, 04:58 PM
I guess I am missing something here. I am an ultra light fisherman and my primary species that I go after are trout and smallmouth. Doesn't using this thing take some of the fun out of fishing? 50 lb. braid? I guess everyone has their own things that they enjoy but I still enjoy fishing as a sport. Trying to convince a fish to hit a single bait, fighting it on light line and feeling like it is a fair match. I guess I just don't understand the need to have multiple baits and from what i understand there is basically no skill needed to throw those rigs. I do know that when I see someone throw one it is like throwing a big rock in the water. I am surprised it doesn't scare off all of the fish....lol just my .02 cents worth. Not wanting to make anyone mad just looking to be schooled.

Personally, I prefer your fishing methods. I do not even have interest in tournament fishing. The fun in fishing leaves for me when it becomes work.
Anyone can reel a fish in on 20 lb or greater line. A lot of those heavy line fishermen would lose most of their fish on light line.

titansfan2104
04-19-2012, 06:19 PM
Personally, I prefer your fishing methods. I do not even have interest in tournament fishing. The fun in fishing leaves for me when it becomes work.
Anyone can reel a fish in on 20 lb or greater line. A lot of those heavy line fishermen would lose most of their fish on light line.

The heavy line is to keep from losing a $25 a-rig along with another $10-20 in lures!!! That's the main reason behind the heavy line!!! And if all your doing is fishing big open water the light line will be fine but.you get to flipping and pitching in stumps,brush and grass I bet that light line will leave you frustrated if you do it enough!!

SAMBOLIE
04-19-2012, 06:28 PM
The heavy line is to keep from losing a $25 a-rig along with another $10-20 in lures!!! That's the main reason behind the heavy line!!! And if all your doing is fishing big open water the light line will be fine but.you get to flipping and pitching in stumps,brush and grass I bet that light line will leave you frustrated if you do it enough!!

I know why heavy line is used. All I am saying is I would prefer to catch fish on 8lb or less. Some use the heavy line and heavy rods in practically all situations. I prefer finessing the fish as opposed to simply winching them in. That is just me and I am probably in the minority.

Scott715
04-19-2012, 10:13 PM
I focus this rig primarily on hybrid. If it catches bass in the process, then that's fine. Considering the weight of the rig with a fish on it and the possibility that you may hang more than one at a time, 50 lb braid is minimum.

Although I have a rod outfitted with one, I keep it ready for any fish busting bait. I don't throw it as much as I thought. It will wear you out quick and because of the weight, only really practical in open (deep) water.

lforet2002
04-22-2012, 12:48 PM
Couldn't figure out how to imbed video but here's a link..This video gives a better visual as to whats legal and whats not..Hope it helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyB0S9rIjac

nomad60
04-22-2012, 01:57 PM
Personally, I prefer your fishing methods. I do not even have interest in tournament fishing. The fun in fishing leaves for me when it becomes work.
Anyone can reel a fish in on 20 lb or greater line. A lot of those heavy line fishermen would lose most of their fish on light line.

Amen, brother. For me, it's all about getting out there, seeing a sunrise, having some peace and quiet, and time for myself. If I catch fish, that's great but if I don't, I enjoy myself just as much.

Line - I have 4, 8 & 10 pound line on all my reels except the one I use for jig fishing..that one has 40-pound braid mainly because of where I like to throw my jigs, they tend to get snagged a lot and with that braid, I either pull whatever the lure is snagged on out of the water or I straighten the hook :)

bd-
04-22-2012, 03:03 PM
So, as I understand, one can only use 3 baits never 5, right?

Not exactly. If your baits have smaller than #6 hooks you can use as many as you want.

So if you have a crappie umbrella rig with 5 lures, all with #8 hooks, you're fine.

If the hooks are #6 or larger, you can never have more than 3.

bd

bd-
04-22-2012, 03:09 PM
If the hooks on a crankbait are size 6 or smaller then you can legally have three crankbaits on the rig.

Maybe less confusing:

Greater than 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm but only (1) can have a single hook.

Less than and including size 6- you can have three baits as they come packaged as long as they are attached to the arm and not on the arm.

Sorry, Travis, but this is incorrect.

The rule says "size 6 or larger."

So if your hooks are size 6 or larger, you can only have three lures. Those three lures can have any number of hooks - for example, three crankbaits would be fine. If you use more than three lures, only one can have a single hook. So you could use five swimbaits or spinnerbaits on an umbrella rig, but you have to cut off all the hooks but one single hook.

Less than size 6 (NOT less than and including), you can have as many lures as you want.

Attachment to the arm doesn't make any difference. Even a sabiki rig falls under this rule as an "array of lures" even though it has no umbrella arms.

bd

Travis C.
04-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Sorry, Travis, but this is incorrect.

The rule says "size 6 or larger."

So if your hooks are size 6 or larger, you can only have three lures. Those three lures can have any number of hooks - for example, three crankbaits would be fine. If you use more than three lures, only one can have a single hook. So you could use five swimbaits or spinnerbaits on an umbrella rig, but you have to cut off all the hooks but one single hook.

Less than size 6 (NOT less than and including), you can have as many lures as you want.

Attachment to the arm doesn't make any difference. Even a sabiki rig falls under this rule as an "array of lures" even though it has no umbrella arms.

bd

Thanks for clearing that up.

I wish they'd make a little more cut and dry when they revist the reg.

lforet2002
04-22-2012, 07:14 PM
Thanks for clearing that up.

I wish they'd make a little more cut and dry when they revist the reg.
Check out the video I posted..Can't get more cut and dry than that..Its done by Chief of Fisheries, Bobby Wilson and he shows exactly what you can and can't use..

Tennesseejugger
04-22-2012, 08:50 PM
Couldn't figure out how to imbed video but here's a link..This video gives a better visual as to whats legal and whats not..Hope it helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyB0S9rIjac Welcome aboard Les!

lforet2002
04-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Welcome aboard Les!
Thanks Mr. Don...Took your advice on those sexy shads and caught a few nice ones the other day..Thanks for the tip..I even got one of the peanut sized ones and caught some nice crappie with em..

Tennesseejugger
04-23-2012, 10:37 AM
Thanks Mr. Don...Took your advice on those sexy shads and caught a few nice ones the other day..Thanks for the tip..I even got one of the peanut sized ones and caught some nice crappie with em.. Its a great crank bait no doubt!