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[gordonc615]

ok so me and my dad are going to fish the lock a side of cheatem tom for some sauger if possible. anyone got some tips as to where? I know that usually the end of the lock right at the break is where everyone goes but I'm worried it's been fished out since I saw I guy pull at least 5 big ones out of there a few weeks ago. any suggestions? I'm looking at u Shoeman haha

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[Shoe man]

Dave and I were out there yesterday and no one was on the bank at the end of the lock. You can't fish that spot "out" as there are always fish moving in to rest. You can almost always catch something in close proximity. It took us till around 10:30 to figure out how to catch the whites. All but one was caught on the river bank yesterday. We were convinced they would be in the creeks because of the color but fooled again. Fun day. We caught 30 to 35 I guess. We kept 20 or so. Holler at me sometime if you can fish on Monday. Every once in awhile my passenger seat is empty. If Mondays are always open for you I can give you some to pick from. I normally don't take 2 but if your dad wanted to go also I think it could be arranged.
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[spottedbass]

Those are some fatties.

[TNBronzeback]

nice fish! some good chunks!

[Alphahawk]

Congrats on your catch.


Regards

[jaystaler88]

What were they bitin?

[Shoe man]

What were they bitin?
We caught all but 2 on an 1\8oz jig with a 2 inch tube. I caught most of them on 4lb line until I broke one off not re-tying after one of the bigger ones. After that both of us were using 8lb. Yellow and chartreuse worked best yesterday.

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[Heiny57]

Nice fish

[Alphahawk]

We caught all but 2 on an 1\8oz jig with a 2 inch tube. I caught most of them on 4lb line until I broke one off not re-tying after one of the bigger ones. After that both of us were using 8lb. Yellow and chartreuse worked best yesterday.

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If you follow my posts you know I use 2# test for 95% of my fishing...catch a bunch of big Smallies....big trout....KY bass on it. But when it comes to fishing for white bass I have one rod loaded up with 6# test line just to fish for them. That big wide tail they have makes them one heck of a fighter. I'm hoping in next 2-3 weeks can get into some of those fatties like you have in the cooler.


Regards

[Shoe man]

If you follow my posts you know I use 2# test for 95% of my fishing...catch a bunch of big Smallies....big trout....KY bass on it. But when it comes to fishing for white bass I have one rod loaded up with 6# test line just to fish for them. That big wide tail they have makes them one heck of a fighter. I'm hoping in next 2-3 weeks can get into some of those fatties like you have in the cooler.


Regards
I do follow your posts and have started using 2lb a lot more because of you and Ed. I use 4 lb some when fishing for whites only because I don't have to be as patient waiting for the jig to hit the bottom in heavy current. As soon as I get complacent and break one off on the hookset I go back to 6 or 8. Whites are the reason I leave the sauger alone most of the time. Love the fight and I know a lot of people don't but I love the taste.

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[gordonc615]

I actually went out Monday and was only able to catch 2 nice size whites all on a white grub. I had a guy literally start fishing 2ft away from me at the bottom of the steps. If my dad wasn't with me to keep me calm I probably would've gotten into it with him.

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[gordonc615]

def let me know whenever ur free cause I can usually make anything work. yall have been a big help with everything. I might go try tom again I love catching whites

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[lupanfreitag]

I hear ya, man.

I was once in my boat at OH Dam and slaying fish and two guys in a small bass tracker almost hit the back of my boat with their bow, then tossed their anchor inches from my prop. Turned slowly and growled. They backed off. If I had a weapon it would not have been pretty.

[Halli]

I hear ya, man.

I was once in my boat at OH Dam and slaying fish and two guys in a small bass tracker almost hit the back of my boat with their bow, then tossed their anchor inches from my prop. Turned slowly and growled. They backed off. If I had a weapon it would not have been pretty.
Shut Up ...bonehead it's PRE meditated with that talk.

[gordonc615]

I wish I would've taken a picture. You would've thought we were pier fishing at PCB or something. I mean barely arms length away from me. Gahh I'm still a little heated just thinking about it. It was an older man too who you'd think would have some respect

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[agelesssone]

Shut Up ...bonehead it's PRE meditated with that talk.

Anytime we are packing while fishing, it's kinda "premeditated".

You think about it, that's why you pack.

Myself, I pack all the time, but I ignore ignoramus's who park close. Got used to it at the barrier in the steam plant.

Can't fight stupidity and you can't control everyone else. Just control yourself.

Unless you want to be a badass and climb into someone's boat....and put that person in fear for their life (especially old people), wherefore you may find yourself floating down the current, looking at the holes in your chest, thinking, why did I let myself get angry over such a trivial thing. Fade to black.....

[TNBronzeback]

i dont like close quarters fishing situations of any kind.
my only exception to that rule is fishing below dams for saugers. And my experience that is the guys that do that kind of fishing all understand that and i have never had any problems. Ofcourse ive never seen more than 3-4 boats at one time either.
But i understand where people come come from about that. The only variable is the great unknown. You have no idea who the guy(s) are in the other boat. Sure you can mouth off, maybe even pull up your shirt and flash your firearm with no intent to draw or use, however the other boat may be insane and actually take it to the next level.

[agelesssone]

But.....when you intentionally flash you gun in your waistband, you have just committed a felony by "threatening" someone with a firearm.
Wasn't long ago a guy got into a pissing match with a lady on the highway, she pulled into a gas station, he followed, got out of his car, lifted his shirt to show his firearm. She called cops and he was arrested for threatening with a firearm.
Don't know what the court outcome was, just know that his firearm was confiscated on the spot.
Never INTENTIONALLY expose a concealed weapon. Open carry is not threatening, it's just open carry.

[TNBronzeback]

yeah i guess the actual definition is debatable, but when i took my permit class at Guns-N-Leather said under no circumstance are you allowed to "brandish" your firearm unless you feel your life is in imminent danger, inwhich case if you pull it, you better use it to "neutralize" the threat. Again, another definition up for grabs.
I personally dont see an issue with the gun being holstered under clothing but the holder exposes the weapon WHILE REMAINING HOLSTERED to what they percieve as a threat under any circumstance. Im not saying its the right approach, but it may prevent somebody from doing something bad......or it may escalate the situation.
so merv, your saying that if i have my gun open carry outside of clothing, you and i get into an argument, im 100% legal to draw attention to, or point to my exposed gun, but i would be breaking the law if its holstered under my shirt but i expose the gun to you?
Im not saying your wrong, but it sounds stupid to me. Whats the difference?

[XxthejuicexX]

TN. From what I know It's actually considered assault with a deadly weapon if you pull up your shirt to show it/ threaten with it. It sounds crazy I know. I think if you had it opened carried and just turned so the individual could see it I think that's fine. I don't think pointing at it is OK because it falls under the assault with a deadly weapon by threatening use. If you pull it out of the holster your life better be in danger whether you shoot or not. I am not saying if you pull it go ahead and start shooting because the sight of the gun being drawn could be enough to discourage the attacker. Talking about being on boats and people arguing. If you are just pissed and yelling at me big whoop, if you come up to my boat and try/get in my boat, the gun is coming out. At that point I would consider my life to be in danger.

That leads to the arguing of what situation do you consider your life to be in danger. In a situation like above I think you have the right to pull your gun. Say dude pushes or punches me I fall out, hit my head and drown..... It is a very unique situation for each individual. You could be attacked and punched once in your chest and stop your heart...... I just don't allow the situation to escalate to that point. I'm Pretty laid back and realize there is a large portion of the population that are jackasses and don't warrant my time.

[TNBronzeback]

im sure the law may read that way but thats just crazy to me!
if 2 people square of:
A: open carry guy turns full circle clearly showing he is armed, never touches weapon = OK
B: concealed carry guy lifts shirt/opens jacket to show he is carrying, never touches weapon = BAD.

LMAO.
Ofcourse its not that clear, no threatening to shoot, pointing to weapon, putting finger on weapon changes the game, but still. Crazy.
thats what i took away from my course 5 or so years ago....you cannot "brandish" your weapon unless you plan on firing, cause if you do and dont shoot, then yes, thats a big no no.
The term brandish means to wave around or flourish the weapon, none of which would apply to simply making it known by visual reference that you are armed.
doesnt matter to me either way because in the end, in an event of something happening, there are so many variables to take into consideration. Im not the kind of guy that would lift my shirt to expose my weapon anyways, but if need be, i draw it, the hook is getting pulled atleast once. I will deal with any consequences, legal or emotional after the smoke clears.
that may come off as harsh or crass irresponsible to some but if you give me a reason to pull it, GOD willing im gonna give you a reason to re-think your actions.

[Travis C.]

I do not have a carry permit so I am asking this out of legal curiosity.

Can you carry on Corps or TVA land and/or lakes outside of hunting seasons?

If so then it doesn't matter much my next comment but if they do not then the life threatening situation wouldn't matter from a legal perspective for a carry person...right?

[SAMBOLIE]

I do not have a carry permit so I am asking this out of legal curiosity.

Can you carry on Corps or TVA land and/or lakes outside of hunting seasons?

If so then it doesn't matter much my next comment but if they do not then the life threatening situation wouldn't matter from a legal perspective for a carry person...right?

If you are carrying in a no weapon zone and are forced to defend your life with the weapon you can't be convicted of carrying in that area. So says my instructor.

[Travis C.]

If you are carrying in a no weapon zone and are forced to defend your life with the weapon you can't be convicted of carrying in that area. So says my instructor.

Interesting, thanks SAMOLIE.

[SAMBOLIE]

Interesting, thanks SAMOLIE.

Of course if you do not have to defend yourself then you are a criminal. What dumb ass creates these laws?

Oops. Sorry Hillary and crowd for calling you a dumb ass.

[SAMBOLIE]

But.....when you intentionally flash you gun in your waistband, you have just committed a felony by "threatening" someone with a firearm.
Wasn't long ago a guy got into a pissing match with a lady on the highway, she pulled into a gas station, he followed, got out of his car, lifted his shirt to show his firearm. She called cops and he was arrested for threatening with a firearm.
Don't know what the court outcome was, just know that his firearm was confiscated on the spot.
Never INTENTIONALLY expose a concealed weapon. Open carry is not threatening, it's just open carry.

Hypothetical question.
Say you have your grand father in his 80's in the boat and he wheels it out and lets the stream fly where the occupants of the encroaching boat can see his barrel. Is that 'assault with a dead weapon'?

[white95v6]

I do not have a carry permit so I am asking this out of legal curiosity.

Can you carry on Corps or TVA land and/or lakes outside of hunting seasons?

If so then it doesn't matter much my next comment but if they do not then the life threatening situation wouldn't matter from a legal perspective for a carry person...right?
You can carry on the boat. But not on their land.

[gordonc615]

man look what I started haha

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[FishAddict]

I fish below the dams often. Close quarters fishing is not unusual. If you go enough, you will get to know the guys. It is just not a big deal. Chill a li'l there Gordon.

[gordonc615]

oh I do alot of close quarters fishing trust me it's the norm below OH if ur on the generator side but this was different just saying show a little respect ya know

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