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maxonehiphop
09-26-2015, 07:34 PM
is a red eye bass and a rock bass the same thing? and are they actually bass?

I saw something in the water (harpeth) that was atleast 3 feet long and it wasn't a gar....it had a much fuller body.

Halli
09-26-2015, 07:52 PM
Click on the species and it shall enlarge.
http://www.tnfish.org/PhotoGalleryFish_TWRA/FishPhotoGallery_TWRA/TWRAFishPhotoGallery.htm

tkwalker
09-26-2015, 07:56 PM
is a red eye bass and a rock bass the same thing? and are they actually bass?

I saw something in the water (harpeth) that was atleast 3 feet long and it wasn't a gar....it had a much fuller body.

Don't think what you saw is either of the species LOL!! ... Go Here ...
http://www.tn.gov/twra/topic/for-anglers This is found on the as the first entry on the forum page .. <'TK><:)

maxonehiphop
09-26-2015, 08:13 PM
Don't think what you saw is either of the species LOL!! ... Go Here ...
http://www.tn.gov/twra/topic/for-anglers This is found on the as the first entry on the forum page .. <'TK><:)


haha...sorry no that was meant to be
multiple questions :D

is there a difference between a rock bass and a redeye (and are they both actually bass?)

and then what the heck did i see that was 3+ feet long and thick..not a gar....or was it an alligator gar or a walleye? it was big and full bodied like the alligator gar pic a
t the link you posted.

StriperFan
09-27-2015, 12:09 PM
Not 100% sure but I believe Red Eye and Rock Bass are the same, though there is the Warmouth as well which is similar and may be called a Rock Bass as well. They are both in the Sunfish family along with the Largemouth and Smallmouth basses, and not in the true bass family which includes the yellow bass, white bass, and striped bass.

I would say you saw a carp or drum, though 3' would be large for a creek fish.

bfish
09-27-2015, 12:32 PM
Rock Bass (Ambloplites rupestris) is also known as redeye bass and google eyes

Coosa Bass (Micropterus coosae) is sometimes called redeye bass, only native to SE TN but has been introduced to some highland rim streams

maxonehiphop
09-27-2015, 01:26 PM
Not 100% sure but I believe Red Eye and Rock Bass are the same, though there is the Warmouth as well which is similar and may be called a Rock Bass as well. They are both in the Sunfish family along with the Largemouth and Smallmouth basses, and not in the true bass family which includes the yellow bass, white bass, and striped bass.

I would say you saw a carp or drum, though 3' would be large for a creek fish.

the 3 foot fish wasn't the redeye/rockbass. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm actually catching. I think it's rock bass...at least based on the link someone posted earlier.

The big fish a different question all together.
it was a very long but still full bodied fish that I saw...i've seen several gar in this little section of the harpeth but they are very slender. This fish wasn't slender like that.

XxthejuicexX
09-27-2015, 02:10 PM
Colors of the big fish?



Crips or bloods??

Dakota
09-27-2015, 07:08 PM
Ive caught this species on the Caney a lot. I call it a red eye.

http://www.tnfish.org/PhotoGalleryFish_TWRA/FishPhotoGallery_TWRA/images/RockbassRedeyeLoudounNegus_jpg.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCLWGyMW3mMgCFYgZPgodPRQCGw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tnfish.org%2FPhotoGalleryFish _TWRA%2FFishPhotoGallery_TWRA%2Fpages%2FRockbassRe deyeLoudounNegus_jpg.htm&psig=AFQjCNHcM2pX9HH1x092YV8Uv3MqS7c7qQ&ust=1443485197096738)

agelesssone
09-27-2015, 08:27 PM
Dakota, to me that would be a red eye, goggle eye, rock bass.

Let Mike Dial chime in here, he's the resident creek expert.

maxonehiphop
09-27-2015, 11:03 PM
Ive caught this species on the Caney a lot. I call it a red eye.

http://www.tnfish.org/PhotoGalleryFish_TWRA/FishPhotoGallery_TWRA/images/RockbassRedeyeLoudounNegus_jpg.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCLWGyMW3mMgCFYgZPgodPRQCGw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tnfish.org%2FPhotoGalleryFish _TWRA%2FFishPhotoGallery_TWRA%2Fpages%2FRockbassRe deyeLoudounNegus_jpg.htm&psig=AFQjCNHcM2pX9HH1x092YV8Uv3MqS7c7qQ&ust=1443485197096738)


I've been calling those redeye too only based on the eyes but after looking at pics i decided those are rock bass....I cast over by some rocks and I see them dart out from beneath the rocks, grab the bait and take it straight back under the rocks... so rock bass seems to fit :)

maxonehiphop
09-27-2015, 11:22 PM
Colors of the big fish?



Crips or bloods??


I'm not sure what color it is. I don't think I can really tell the color of the fish until I get them out of the water. Do we have alligator gar in the harpeth?

blink
09-28-2015, 06:19 AM
What you are seeing is carp.

XxthejuicexX
09-28-2015, 08:17 AM
I'm not sure what color it is. I don't think I can really tell the color of the fish until I get them out of the water. Do we have alligator gar in the harpeth?



No gator gar. Like Blink said, probably carp.

tsuggs
09-28-2015, 05:16 PM
Those redeye are excellent table fare

gaspergou
09-29-2015, 09:27 AM
No, man... that's a rockfish. Lives under rocks. Duh! Oh, wait, it's got a stripe under it's eye, that means it's gotta be a stripe, yeah? Wait, black perch?! What? Now that's just silly.

Red eye is what you got after a long night out fishing for strippers, or stripers, or whatever they are.


Ive caught this species on the Caney a lot. I call it a red eye.

http://www.tnfish.org/PhotoGalleryFish_TWRA/FishPhotoGallery_TWRA/images/RockbassRedeyeLoudounNegus_jpg.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCLWGyMW3mMgCFYgZPgodPRQCGw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tnfish.org%2FPhotoGalleryFish _TWRA%2FFishPhotoGallery_TWRA%2Fpages%2FRockbassRe deyeLoudounNegus_jpg.htm&psig=AFQjCNHcM2pX9HH1x092YV8Uv3MqS7c7qQ&ust=1443485197096738)

maxonehiphop
09-29-2015, 09:51 AM
What you are seeing is carp.

I'm familiar enough with carp to where I'm certain I would recognize it. it doesn't look like a carp but who knows, maybe. I'm sure I'll see it again and now I'll look with carp in mind.

hunterchub
09-29-2015, 02:17 PM
Rock Bass or Redeye. Fine eating fish. But don't tell anyone. ;)

catman529
09-30-2015, 07:55 PM
is a red eye bass and a rock bass the same thing? and are they actually bass?



I saw something in the water (harpeth) that was atleast 3 feet long and it wasn't a gar....it had a much fuller body.


Redeye is a common name for rock bass and they are a sunfish just like all black bass species are.

The harpeth has longnose and spotted gar, maybe shortnose as well. The shortnose and spotted gar are shorter and stockier than longnose. Anything else 3 feet long could be a common carp, buffalo, or grass carp more likely than anything else.


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Halli
10-01-2015, 06:30 AM
Never know could be a damned Asian carp since we are not used to identifying them.