Water clarity and level questions

[XxthejuicexX]

I want to get out Saturday afternoon. I know the rivers around here are high and muddy. How does the amount of rain/snow we got effect williamsport, steamplant or the north end of Priest. I don't fish either of those enough to know what happens with all the wet stuff that fell.

[Travis C.]

Gsp was up and muddy after last weeks snow melt by saturday.

Williamsport i would imagine wont get a lot of inbound color except whats there but on the same token it will probably filter out longer.

Dont know about stones.

Your best water is probably gonna be below center hill in the pond for color if the sluice isnt on.

[jad2t]

GSP will most likely be muddy. I've narrowed my weekend trip down to either the North end of JPP around Seven Points or Williamsport. I know that part of JPP will be clear and I can always call the office at Williamsport and ask about the water clarity but I think it should be fine there.

[jad2t]

Your best water is probably gonna be below center hill in the pond for color if the sluice isnt on.

We made that mistake last weekend. 5 of us fishing couldn't even get a single fish. Not even stockers on TMs. I blame the massive shad kill and surely these cold temps are going to kill more shad. I'd guess the fishing there will be tough again.

[Travis C.]

We made that mistake last weekend. 5 of us fishing couldn't even get a single fish. Not even stockers on TMs. I blame the massive shad kill and surely these cold temps are going to kill more shad. I'd guess the fishing there will be tough again.

What all did you fish with? Granted it can be tough but using TM's during a shad kill isn't really high %. Low water no shad coming through your in pretty good shape with TM's.

Minnows this time of year are good even with a shad kill on going. Don't worry about the temps being too cold. It won't get too cold there for them. Too hot....maybe another issue.

[creekcrappie]

I hope to find some clearer water for my high school tourney on Jpp. I will probably go in the river or the back of spring/fall creek.

[XxthejuicexX]

Thanks for the help so far. I really want to fish Saturday out of the yak so I am trying to do my best to fish the best water I can find. Priest I would chase smallmouth or hybrid. Williamsport what ever I can find.

[Alphahawk]

Williamsport is clear.....clear as it usually is. I spent all day out there Tuesday didn't even get a hit. Did get to test out some new rods but would have liked to felt a fish on them. Shad kill really has nothing to do with catching trout on the TM......most of the time......even though I may want to blame it on that. The reason I didn't catch more over at Normandy Saturday was because the water was just a little too much. If no sluice I would hit the pond this weekend. If the water at OH or JPP is clearing.....meaning if it was clearer than yesterday......the fish will return to biting. It doesn't need to be clear....just clearing. I have found this true for all specie of fish. I'm going to try and hit Pickwick......Nickajack, the next few days after Friday. Hopefully get into some whites and maybe another big Smallie. I have fed the birds well this winter and have enjoyed looking at all the nice colors....but enough is enough.

Regards


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[Travis C.]

Thanks for the help so far. I really want to fish Saturday out of the yak so I am trying to do my best to fish the best water I can find. Priest I would chase smallmouth or hybrid. Williamsport what ever I can find.

Good luck if you get out. I am ready to get back out next weekend. Need me some kayak wars points.

All this snow, school closures and lil ones being sick has already used up my PTO and vacation for this year. Luckily my bosses who are awesome told that if i need to take a day or so during the week sometime to go fishing it will not be a problem.

Heck yeah!

[XxthejuicexX]

Good luck if you get out. I am ready to get back out next weekend. Need me some kayak wars points.

All this snow, school closures and lil ones being sick has already used up my PTO and vacation for this year. Luckily my bosses who are awesome told that if i need to take a day or so during the week sometime to go fishing it will not be a problem.

Heck yeah!

Good to hear you have understanding bosses. I need to post some more Kayak wars points. We are hanging out with 35 points, you can tell it's slow because I think we are 5th or 6th with just those points. Will the caney be ruined this weekend with all the rain?

[Travis C.]

Good to hear you have understanding bosses. I need to post some more Kayak wars points. We are hanging out with 35 points, you can tell it's slow because I think we are 5th or 6th with just those points. Will the caney be ruined this weekend with all the rain?

Honestly if it were me and the sluice isn't running thats where i would go with my trip. Sluice no way if its on i haven't checked. I have fished with 14 or 15k running through gens in the pond no issue just higher.

Gar move in there to with trout and striper on high water. Points are points even if its gar. :D

[Travis C.]

If Williamsport is still in pretty good shape clarity wise it could be an option but with 10-15 mph winds here i wouldn't waste the gas. You would get blown all over.

[XxthejuicexX]

Looking at the Generation schedule 2 are open now, where can you check to see if the sluice is open? i would like to catch some trout since the last trip out was a bust

[Heiny57]

Which lake at Willamsport has the crappie in it, or do they all?

[Alphahawk]

Which lake at Willamsport has the crappie in it, or do they all?

Blue Cat and Shell Cracker. If you have a boat with sonar they will be easy to find. A friend of mine was catching them in his boat last week. If you go to Blue Cat and you look out from boat ramp the left bank of the first cove should be holding a bunch in those stick ups.


Regards

[Alphahawk]

Looking at the Generation schedule 2 are open now, where can you check to see if the sluice is open? i would like to catch some trout since the last trip out was a bust

Check out Center Hill Facebook page but doesn't look like sluice is on.



Regards

[SAMBOLIE]

Williamsport is clear.....clear as it usually is. I spent all day out there Tuesday didn't even get a hit. Did get to test out some new rods but would have liked to felt a fish on them. Shad kill really has nothing to do with catching trout on the TM......most of the time......even though I may want to blame it on that. The reason I didn't catch more over at Normandy Saturday was because the water was just a little too much. If no sluice I would hit the pond this weekend. If the water at OH or JPP is clearing.....meaning if it was clearer than yesterday......the fish will return to biting. It doesn't need to be clear....just clearing. I have found this true for all specie of fish. I'm going to try and hit Pickwick......Nickajack, the next few days after Friday. Hopefully get into some whites and maybe another big Smallie. I have fed the birds well this winter and have enjoyed looking at all the nice colors....but enough is enough.

Regards


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Randy, If you need a good luck charm let em know and I will join you. :rolleyes:

[Heiny57]

Alpha, didn't you catch some keepers awhile back. IIRC

Thanks for the info.

[Alphahawk]

Randy, If you need a good luck charm let em know and I will join you. :rolleyes:

Will do Ott. The weather Tuesday though Friday looks good for Pickwick next week.

Regards

[XxthejuicexX]

Check out Center Hill Facebook page but doesn't look like sluice is on.



Regards

I will check it out, thanks. There are not crappie over 12" at williamsport are there?

[Alphahawk]

Alpha, didn't you catch some keepers awhile back. IIRC

Thanks for the info.

Last fish I was into was at Pickwick with the 21 inch Smallie and I was right proud of getting that 26 inch carp in on an UL rod with 2# test. I'm ready to catch anything at this point...LOL.


Regards

[Alphahawk]

I will check it out, thanks. There are not crappie over 12" at williamsport are there?

Actually there is. If you find the right school you can get them. Remember they are all black nose.....they can get really big. For three years in a row...except this past year......I have caught one and only one per year...... a 16 inch black nose each of those years. That would fit well into your Kayak Wars.


Regards

[Heiny57]

I meant earlier like this past spring or summer you reported getting some legal size Crappie there. I thought there is mostly short ones.

[jad2t]

What all did you fish with? Granted it can be tough but using TM's during a shad kill isn't really high %. Low water no shad coming through your in pretty good shape with TM's.

Minnows this time of year are good even with a shad kill on going. Don't worry about the temps being too cold. It won't get too cold there for them. Too hot....maybe another issue.

I've been there before during generation and caught them one after another on TMs. Last weekend there was just nothing we could do, they wouldn't eat.

[jad2t]

Randy didn't you say Williamsport was just full of 9" Crappie and suggested they have a few weeks where 8-9" fish could be harvested to thin out the population? Maybe it wasn't you but someone claimed all they'd catch out there were short Crappie but more of them in there than you could imagine.

Looks like light winds Sunday. I'm leaning even more towards Williamsport Sunday. Scout the woods for Turkey in the morning, fish afternoon to dark. We get an extra hour!

[XxthejuicexX]

Unless the river goes down by the house I am thinking Caney, if the water cooperates Saturday afternoon. All else fails I can go up top and fish center hill like last time.

[Alphahawk]

Randy didn't you say Williamsport was just full of 9" Crappie and suggested they have a few weeks where 8-9" fish could be harvested to thin out the population? Maybe it wasn't you but someone claimed all they'd catch out there were short Crappie but more of them in there than you could imagine.

Looks like light winds Sunday. I'm leaning even more towards Williamsport Sunday. Scout the woods for Turkey in the morning, fish afternoon to dark. We get an extra hour!

Yes there are thousands of crappie in there and the majority of them are 9 3/4 inches...but if you fish for several hours one can get a legal limit of 15 crappie....and some of them could be nice size. Since I go to Nickajack and get 13-15 inch fish I just have no interest in keeping fish from there. But I will say that each spring the fish are getting a little bit bigger.


Regards

[Alphahawk]

I meant earlier like this past spring or summer you reported getting some legal size Crappie there. I thought there is mostly short ones.

They are mostly short but if you work you can get a limit of keepers.


Regards

[MNfisher]

The north end of Priest, near the dam and cooks and so on rarely gets muddy. Unless you are in a cove where a creek comes in. But the water is usually settled by the time it gets there. How about your stones spot?? It shouldn't be too bad should it?

As far as the shad kill on CHD. I never catch s dang thing when Shad come through. The few I have caught come on minnows and they are fat as can be, but far and few.


Mike

[XxthejuicexX]

The north end of Priest, near the dam and cooks and so on rarely gets muddy. Unless you are in a cove where a creek comes in. But the water is usually settled by the time it gets there. How about your stones spot?? It shouldn't be too bad should it?

As far as the shad kill on CHD. I never catch s dang thing when Shad come through. The few I have caught come on minnows and they are fat as can be, but far and few.


Mike

Currently my spot on the river is out of the banks and really muddy. If it goes down by Saturday I am going to try that. If not then I move to the Caney and use live bait. Alpha, I need to find a spot like your honey hole on nicknack, I need some 12" crappie for kayak wars points :)

[creekcrappie]

The north end of Priest, near the dam and cooks and so on rarely gets muddy. Unless you are in a cove where a creek comes in. But the water is usually settled by the time it gets there. How about your stones spot?? It shouldn't be too bad should it?

As far as the shad kill on CHD. I never catch s dang thing when Shad come through. The few I have caught come on minnows and they are fat as can be, but far and few.


Mike

For some reason the water has been off colored down there for 1 and a half months now. It was almost like an algae bloom but I know it isn't. Anyone know what it is?

[XxthejuicexX]

For some reason the water has been off colored down there for 1 and a half months now. It was almost like an algae bloom but I know it isn't. Anyone know what it is?

Might be turn over, I know two years ago I fished it earlier in the year and noticed the same thing.

[Alphahawk]

Currently my spot on the river is out of the banks and really muddy. If it goes down by Saturday I am going to try that. If not then I move to the Caney and use live bait. Alpha, I need to find a spot like your honey hole on nicknack, I need some 12" crappie for kayak wars points :)

You mean a spot like this on JPP.....from when I used to fish up there.



Regards

[XxthejuicexX]

I can put some crappie in the boat on JPP. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/05/151a44807b7987cd8b17ba83323f7c83.jpg


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[Alphahawk]

I can put some crappie in the boat on JPP. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/05/151a44807b7987cd8b17ba83323f7c83.jpg


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What's wrong with putting crappie like that on Kayak Wars???.....PM sent.


Regards

[XxthejuicexX]

Long paddle from the ramp, I'm fat and out of shape :) need a place close to a put in to catch 12" plus crappie.


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[MNfisher]

What's wrong with putting crappie like that on Kayak Wars???.....PM sent.





Regards


Whoa whoa whoa!!! You can't help their team?!?!? LOL.


Mike

[Travis C.]

What's wrong with putting crappie like that on Kayak Wars???.....PM sent.


Regards

They are too big. Useless for points. Cant be over 12" juice seems confused.

:D

[XxthejuicexX]

They are too big. Useless for points. Cant be over 12" juice seems confused.

:D


To williamsport it is then! I'm glad you cleared the rules up, I misread them ;)

[Alphahawk]

To williamsport it is then! I'm glad you cleared the rules up, I misread them ;)

Well.....I read it as 12 inch is minimum length and trophy is 15 inches with 50 per month. Juice are you and Travis on same team? Am I missing something in the regs?


Regards


http://www.kayakwars.com/points.php

[XxthejuicexX]

Well.....I read it as 12 inch is minimum length and trophy is 15 inches with 50 per month. Juice are you and Travis on same team? Am I missing something in the regs?


Regards


http://www.kayakwars.com/points.php

It is 12" Minimum, we are not on the same teams so he was just trying to be "Helpful"

[jad2t]

No Travis is the enemy!!! Along with Mike and Jeremy and Chris!

Team Long Rods is me, Adam (Blink), John (xxthejuicexx), Tony (tbona) and Larry Wheeler.

We haven't had much time on the water yet except last weekend which was a bust for almost everyone who went. Mike and Chris had a great GSP trip that put them way ahead of us but it's time to catch up and that's just what we plan to do this weekend!

I feel like we need Team Long Rods stickers for our yaks

[Heiny57]

Do they sell minnows at Williamsport?

[Travis C.]

No Travis is the enemy!!! Along with Mike and Jeremy and Chris!

Has the line in the sand been officially drawn!!!! :D


We haven't had much time on the water yet except last weekend which was a bust for almost everyone who went.

Wasn't a bust for me, I caught some stripers and a walleye. Just couldn't get the 20" stripers to squish another inch.

[Alphahawk]

Do they sell minnows at Williamsport?

Yes they do....but not sure if she has any in stock yet. She just opened 1 March. I would call and ask.


Regards

[Travis C.]

Well.....I read it as 12 inch is minimum length and trophy is 15 inches with 50 per month. Juice are you and Travis on same team? Am I missing something in the regs?


Regards


http://www.kayakwars.com/points.php

Yeah those numbers are right Alpha. I am just stirring the pot a little. Being coupe up inside for 2 days with kids will do that to ya.

[XxthejuicexX]

Has the line the sand been officially drawn!!!! :D




Wasn't a bust for me, I caught some stripers and a walleye. Just couldn't get the 20" stripers to squish another inch.



If you can count one fish not a bust, sign me up. Promise me that if our two teams ever happen to meet up at a ramp we have a fight scene like the one in Anchorman.

[Travis C.]

Promise me that if our two teams ever happen to meet up at a ramp we have a fight scene like the one in Anchorman.

As long as there is no touching of the hair or face.

[jad2t]

As long as there is no touching of the hair or face.

Or the hair on the face. I don't want my awesome beard being messed up.

[XxthejuicexX]

Or the hair on the face. I don't want my awesome beard being messed up.


My beard will cut you, Man! I think I need to change the name of the thread now. It's now the anything goes thread of randomness.

[Travis C.]

It's now the anything goes thread of randomness.

I can bring it back on point. You were initially looking for the water clarity and level to go fishing this weekend in order to gather much needed points to catch up. :p :D

[XxthejuicexX]

I can bring it back on point. You were initially looking for the water clarity and level to go fishing this weekend in order to gather much needed points to catch up. :p :D


You are correct sir. LOL. The more I think about it the more I lean to fishing priest tomorrow afternoon. I am afraid that the roads to the caney will be iced over. Worried that OH will be to nasty to fish.

[Travis C.]

You are correct sir. LOL. The more I think about it the more I lean to fishing priest tomorrow afternoon. I am afraid that the roads to the caney will be iced over. Worried that OH will be to nasty to fish.

That could be a good smarter route at least you won't have a bunch invested in gas then. I am not sure how much attention they spend on the main hwy for icy conditions and you can bet it's probably 0 time spent on that sloping parking lot ranger station side. I wouldn't launch in a yak campground side with 2 gens running for safety reasons.

[MNfisher]

I already have my trident in my yak in the event we meet at the ramp.


Mike

[XxthejuicexX]

That could be a good smarter route at least you won't have a bunch invested in gas then. I am not sure how much attention they spend on the main hwy for icy conditions and you can bet it's probably 0 time spent on that sloping parking lot ranger station side. I wouldn't launch in a yak campground side with 2 gens running for safety reasons.


I come in cove hollow road too, I doubt anything is done to that road.

[XxthejuicexX]

I already have my trident in my yak in the event we meet at the ramp.


Mike


How many people can I catch in a cast net! I wonder who I need to talk to to get my hands on a grenade.

[jad2t]

I already have my trident in my yak in the event we meet at the ramp.


Mike

I'll have a pellet gun to shoot holes in your yak and sink your ship!

[MNfisher]

I'll have a pellet gun to shoot holes in your yak and sink your ship!


Those measly pellets will bounce back and poke your eye out.


Mike

[Travis C.]

I'll have a pellet gun to shoot holes in your yak and sink your ship!

You should see all the holes I have already from moving mounts around. I ain't worried about no extra pellet holes..now if you shoot copper BB's that's another story. I can pull those back out and make good use of them. ;) :D

[XxthejuicexX]

You should see all the holes I have already from moving mounts around. I ain't worried about no extra pellet holes..now if you shoot copper BB's that's another story. I can pull those back out and make good use of them. ;) :D


What about copper jacketed??? :)

[Travis C.]

What about copper jacketed??? :)

Won't work for my custom weighted lures.

[XxthejuicexX]

Won't work for my custom weighted lures.


Dang, I could have helped you. Anyone drove over JPP today?

[XxthejuicexX]

4 Corners said it was normal Green Priest water! Small mouth here I come.

[creekcrappie]

Water over Weakley Lane was chocolate milk. Same with West Fork. Mona was clear however!

[Halli]

Looking at the river in Old Hickory/Madison that ole man is rolling in the deep and real high in the trees along the bank below the Old Hickory Bridge.

Double Latte with cream!

[XxthejuicexX]

You boys are scaring me now. I don't know what my back up plan would be, Caney I guess.

When it says 2 or more generators going does that mean the sluice is open?

[Travis C.]

You boys are scaring me now. I don't know what my back up plan would be, Caney I guess.

When it says 2 or more generators going does that mean the sluice is open?

No separate area of info all together. That only refers to power portion.

http://www.tva.gov/lakes/cnh_r.htm (this shows planned generation and if sluice is on it will be in bold black somewhere in the red type top of page)

http://www-wm.lrn.usace.army.mil/hh/resplots/cen_a.html (this is actually whats coming
through the dam)

Looks like no sluice from what I can tell.

[XxthejuicexX]

Thanks Travis. Hopefully I don't have to skip priest and drive down 40 to the Caney.

[Travis C.]

Thanks Travis. Hopefully I don't have to skip priest and drive down 40 to the Caney.

Good luck. Wish i was fishing instead of working.

[FloatNFish]

Made it up to the steam plant for a couple hours this afternoon...MUDDY and the water is down to 55. Missed one on a gizzard. Sounded like everyone else was struggling as well.

[thehick176]

Crossed Hobson Pk bridge today. Water is chocolate milk.

[Doc Marshall]

I fished the pond this past Tuesday, from the shore. Two generators were running and the water was high. Sluice wasn't on, as far as I could tell.

I only caught one fish, an ugly carp that I hooked in the face with a rooster tail. It was a great fight, but I was pretty darned disappointed when I saw it was a sucker...

Doc

[XxthejuicexX]

Long hunter was off color, not chocolate milk but nasty. Wind was worse. I found tons of fish on the finder but could not find any takers. I gave after a hour or so because the wind was so bad. I then went to east fork, much clearer but the current was so strong it was tough to fish anything. No bites, no fish. Rough day.

[creekcrappie]

I caught one short fish in the back of spring creek. I was also in east fork flipping laydowns. I hung a PIG but it wrapped me around a tree and it got off. Current was ridiculous in East Fork.

[XxthejuicexX]

I caught one short fish in the back of spring creek. I was also in east fork flipping laydowns. I hung a PIG but it wrapped me around a tree and it got off. Current was ridiculous in East Fork.

At least you caught fish. I just stayed pissed off most of the day due to the conditions. They wind made me angrier than anything. I graphed a ton of fish around long hunter but could not stay around them to even have a chance at catching anything. I was fighting white caps at long hunter, did get checked by fish and game.